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1. deepth+tl[view] [source] 2023-08-13 20:16:04
>>_____k+(OP)
The problem with the "I've got nothing to hide" argument is it's not "you" who decides what is "right" or "wrong". The entity doing the "spying" determines what is right or wrong. "You" might think "x" is ok, however the "spying" entity may have the opposite view. And it is the "spying" entity's opinion that matters, not yours, because it always them that have the power and authority in determining what is "right" or "wrong". Moreover, definitions change on what is "right" or "wrong".
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2. dionid+eO[view] [source] 2023-08-13 23:38:42
>>deepth+tl
There is a kind of sleight of hand at work in this counterargument, which is that nobody is advocating for a secret, extrajudicial, arbitrary set of rules about what is allowed and what isn't. Even if I say I'm OK with the government reading my email, all the work is ahead of them to prove specific charges in a court of law, should I catch their interest. The spy agency does not, in fact, get to decide what's right and wrong. The existence of a surveillance state does not imply the existence of a secret police with extrajudicial powers.
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3. nvy+y61[view] [source] 2023-08-14 02:39:47
>>dionid+eO
Look up "parallel construction".
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4. dionid+Ld2[view] [source] 2023-08-14 14:05:19
>>nvy+y61
Not sure I see how it's relevant here, since we're granting that the spy agency in this case has every right to gather evidence. The point is that they don't get to unilaterally decide if that evidence constitutes a crime, which is what the original comment suggested.
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5. nvy+aW2[view] [source] 2023-08-14 17:32:47
>>dionid+Ld2
If the agency finds something they don't like they'll just come up with a plausible way to arrest you for something unrelated.
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