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1. baxtr+9d[view] [source] 2023-08-13 19:32:05
>>_____k+(OP)
I’m wondering: is there a good list of data privacy failure consequences?

There are good lists of breaches but few describing what happened to the people afterwards. Credit card theft resulting in a loss being the most obvious one.

Such concrete (real) examples would help me to argue with people who say: all this non-sense about data privacy. What would anyone want to do with your data anyways?

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2. kkfx+wj[view] [source] 2023-08-13 20:04:49
>>baxtr+9d
In mere privacy terms?

- a women start planning to have a child, her employer know that, she got fired before the conception, legally;

- you are someone who know his/shes knows his rights, no jobs for you since you are not easy to exploit;

- you have a certain political opinion, not nice toward the present government? You'll got hard career and all possible "issues", just like getting more traffic red lights than someone else, more police checks causing delays and so on.

The list is long. The point is: we can't design a society like a factory, we can't plan evolution beyond banal things, so we need noise, variability that nobody can master to ensure nothing can last too much impeding further evolution just because someone manage to grab a certain position of power and do want to end the history to remain there forever in a loop. That's why we need privacy, diversity, and so on.

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3. baxtr+Mj[view] [source] 2023-08-13 20:06:04
>>kkfx+wj
Thanks.

I was looking for real cases. Theory won't convince the nay-sayers

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4. antihi+Lo[view] [source] 2023-08-13 20:34:33
>>baxtr+Mj
Real cases are everywhere, in front of everyone, every day. For example:

Victims of domestic violence or stalking. Victims of personal vendettas or bigotry from figures in authority. Victims of exploitative employers. These victims have done nothing wrong and they need privacy.

All kinds of people are randomly distributed throughout all professions and strata of society. Politicians, police, lawyers, doctors, posties, real estate agents, chefs. All have great and terrible human representation.

Now think about a person you distrust/dislike the most in your life. Would you want to give them access to everything about you?

The type of person that you like least will eventually have access to your information. If you don't protect your privacy now, who will protect you then?

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5. Clumsy+Vz[view] [source] 2023-08-13 21:45:44
>>antihi+Lo
> Real cases are everywhere, in front of everyone, every day

W He is looming to something that is well written and convincing, something salient. Punchy

Your post is not that. it is difficult to express this so wlel that it is irrefutable

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6. antihi+cD1[view] [source] 2023-08-14 09:00:00
>>Clumsy+Vz
I'm suggesting that there doesn't need to be a punchy irrefutable post that wins the argument.

Anyone who interacts with a variety of humans on a regular basis has all of the proof they need that entrusting anonymous others (including corporate entities) with personal information is a bad idea.

The day that humans no longer swindle and scam each other, no longer become jealous or seek revenge, and no longer use power for personal gain at the expense of others is the day we can all freely share everything with each other without worry.

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7. kkfx+y52[view] [source] 2023-08-14 13:12:54
>>antihi+cD1
Beware a thing: in the modern world it's not "everybody knows about everybody" vs "nobody knows nothing about everybody", it's just: very few people know almost anything about everybody, while most do know next to nothing about them.

It's such asymmetry the very issue.

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