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1. lispis+Pq[view] [source] 2023-08-05 19:14:25
>>mikece+(OP)
So they generated training data from one laptop and microphone then generated test data with the exact same laptop and microphone in the same setup, possibly one person pressing the keys too. For the Zoom model they trained a new model with data gathered from Zoom. They call it a practical side channel attack but they didnt do anything to see if this approach could generalize at all
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2. OtherS+zA[view] [source] 2023-08-05 20:24:31
>>lispis+Pq
I believe that is the generalisable version of the attack. You're not looking to learn the sound of arbitrary keyboards with this attack, rather you're looking to learn the sound of specific targets.

For example, a Twitch streamer enters responses into their stream-chat with a live mic. Later, the streamer enters their Twitch password. Someone employing this technique could reasonably be able to learn the audio from the first scenario, and apply the findings in the second scenario.

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3. TechBr+CL[view] [source] 2023-08-05 21:56:33
>>OtherS+zA
Finally, a real security weakness to cite when making fun of people for their mechanical keyboard. Time to start recording the audio of Zoom calls with some particularly loud typers...
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4. Spooky+On1[view] [source] 2023-08-06 04:37:49
>>TechBr+CL
I used to work in an office space with an independent contractor whose schtick was that he was a genius. The affectations around his genius-ness included casually bringing up Mensa meetings, dropping magazines like Foreign Affairs and academic journals around the office, and his fucking keyboard.

The keyboard had custom switches that were very loud. And he typed fast - it was like living on a gun range. Everyone in the office probably would have chipped in for a hitman, but alas, the CTO, whose office had a solid door, was “inspired” that the mechanical feedback helped fuel inspiration in boy wonder.

Had we thought of the security risks of the keyboard, I would have brought good scotch to the infosec dude while expressing my concerns.

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5. harles+zx1[view] [source] 2023-08-06 07:07:45
>>Spooky+On1
Somewhat tangential: clicky switches, like Cherry Blues, tend to click twice for each stroke. I think this leads to people assuming there are twice as many strokes going on. Tactile switches tend to only click once (when they bottom out). So, fancy keyboards can make people sound faster than they are.
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6. assbut+H02[view] [source] 2023-08-06 12:59:15
>>harles+zx1
I don't think that's quite right. Many switches including tactiles will make a sound when the switch tops out, from the stem hitting the housing.

As far as I know, Cherry blues only click once and the second sound you hear on a keypress is just the topping out sound.

https://cdn-blog.adafruit.com/uploads/2016/09/Blue.gif

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7. surge+BK3[view] [source] 2023-08-06 23:37:35
>>assbut+H02
And they make little o rings to dampen that if you're hardcore.
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