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1. abeced+1c[view] [source] 2023-08-06 13:51:08
>>isodev+(OP)
Why not switch? I've had good experiences with competitors. I don't know if they're as nice for mass meetings instead of one-to-one or small groups, but at least for the chats I've had, there's never been any reason to go to Zoom.

(I care more about spyware, privacy, and user sovereignty than AI training.)

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2. lucb1e+cf[view] [source] 2023-08-06 14:08:21
>>abeced+1c
> I've had good experiences with competitors

That's flipped for me: I've had good experiences with zoom on occasion.

The only time we use Zoom is with US customers, so a handful of times per year I'd estimate. Before covid, I only ever heard of Zoom in the context of laughably bad vulnerabilities; then during covid, suddenly it was a new verb used online to mean video calls. In a world where there are many established players (until 2019-12-31, I had already used: skype/lync, jitsi, discord, signal, whatsapp, wire, telegram, hangouts, webex, jami/ring, and gotomeeting) are already established players, why in the world would anyone ever choose to go with specifically the company that we all laughed at? I don't get it, and it seems most of our customers (mostly european) either

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