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1. al_jam+B4[view] [source] 2023-08-01 15:21:22
>>whoish+(OP)
Caim (www.caim.org) | Python Engineer, Front End Engineer, and Engineering Lead | 100% Remote | Volunteer/Unpaid | Part-time

We’re a 501c3 charity whose mission is to help the US become a no-kill nation. Our platform empowers animal rescues to connect with each other, fosters and other rescue advocates in order to move animals from overcrowded, high kill areas to places they're more likely to be adopted. Our organization launched in 2022 and we’re looking for engineers to join the team so we can continue building out our web app. Caim is 100% volunteer run at this time.

We are looking for people who can help out 5+ hours per week.

Python Engineer – must have knowledge of python and any popular web framework (preference for Django) – https://www.caim.org/volunteer/full-stack-engineer

Engineering Lead - must have knowledge of python and any popular web framework (preferably Django) + experience helping more junior engineers get started – https://www.caim.org/volunteer/engineering-lead

Front End Engineer - must have experience with raw CSS, Bootstrap, jQuery, Django and CSS/DOM - https://www.caim.org/volunteer/front-end-engineer

Please apply to volunteer through the links above.

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2. theLim+i11[view] [source] 2023-08-01 18:59:35
>>al_jam+B4
Is there a reason why your code isn't open source? I like your mission, but it's very unclear to me why your codebase isn't open and I'd 100% be much more likely to try to help out if it were.
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3. 93po+T32[view] [source] 2023-08-01 23:36:01
>>theLim+i11
If I had to guess: there's likely nothing that special about their Django site for connecting animals to foster parents, and the extra time and potential security risks of of making it open source compared to the benefit it'd provide the open source community doesn't make sense.

Volunteer-run tech and IT for non-profits aren't exactly well known for the highest of standards of engineering. The likelihood of someone accidentally leaking AWS creds or other PII seems reasonably possible without well established engineering practices.

Alternatively, it may involve proprietary code for a software vendor they work with that they don't have the rights to redistribute.

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4. theLim+O82[view] [source] 2023-08-02 00:09:59
>>93po+T32
That would just be security through obscurity.

I'd be really interested in contributing but I'd hate to be contributing and then find out that this non-profit is actually some rich persons tax avoidance scheme or can be pivoted in a way to make money for someone.

Having the source code licensed as GPL or something would make this a smaller concern for me.

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5. mdekke+yE2[view] [source] 2023-08-02 04:48:08
>>theLim+O82
why is “somebody wants to make money” a bad thing?
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6. encomi+EF2[view] [source] 2023-08-02 05:01:35
>>mdekke+yE2
It's a bad thing when the job is advertised: "Volunteer/Unpaid".
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7. mdekke+xO2[view] [source] 2023-08-02 06:31:43
>>encomi+EF2
The poster I replied to indicated that the “making money” part could come later.

It is easy enough to have a volunteering agreement that catches this with clauses. Open sourcing the code won’t help with that scenario anyway.

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8. theLim+Tv4[view] [source] 2023-08-02 17:43:14
>>mdekke+xO2
But if it were open source, volunteers could fork and self-host the application and create their own competing non-profit/organization.
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9. mdekke+hc5[view] [source] 2023-08-02 20:25:28
>>theLim+Tv4
It’s a content-driven website with user submissions. They don’t even claim copyright or ownership on the content, which is the actual thing that makes up the unique value.

Open source what, exactly? You point makes literally zero sense

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