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>>belter+(OP)
Every time I read about space engineering, I'm amazed by how contingencies have contingencies. It's so much careful planning and rigor compared to my world. I can always re-compile, re-deploy and regularly realize that my job is not life or death.

>>notyou+Bc1
Honestly, I'd say most engineering is like that outside of the software world. In the classic engineering disciplines with actual licensures at the end of the pipeline, the responsibility and ethics of this are ingrained into students from day 1. (Budget and importance of the application doesn't always allow for the indulgence of this though, at least to a point.)

This type of thinking also follows from decades of experience.

For some reason the software engineering world largely abandoned esteem and respect for all of the above.

>>Engine+pg1
> For some reason the software engineering world largely abandoned esteem and respect for all of the above.

That's what happens when there's no liability. Even if you're a billion dollar corporation, you can just slap some standard legal boilerplate disclaimer on the license agreement and absolve yourself of all responsibility even when hackers pwn the private information of your customers. They can't complain since technically the contract says there were no guarantees.

Some version if this legal boilerplate can be found in virtually all software licenses, including open source ones:

  THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS",
  WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED,
  INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
  FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, TITLE AND NON-INFRINGEMENT.
  IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS OR ANYONE DISTRIBUTING
  THE SOFTWARE BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
  WHETHER IN CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
  OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS
  IN THE SOFTWARE.

Start holding developers and especially corporations directly accountable and liable for any problems and I guarantee they'll start respecting it the very next second.