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>>ColinW+(OP)
This is a clear sign of Google's weakness. They are losing their monopoly and are desperately trying to hold on to the net. In the last few weeks, they have announced that they will try to block navigation if you have an ad blocker installed (for example, when watching a video on Youtube). Take a look at Fuchsia for another example ... they are losing the control on Android, so they started this new project ... it is another sign. My recipe: AdGuard Home, Brave browser (phone, tablet, desktop), Bromite (phone), Firefox (desktop) + uBlock origin plugin ... and FreeTube on desktop. Just using Brave on the phone is enough to kill all ads and trackers. In the open source community, there will always be someone smarter than they think who will find a way around their gates... Few days ago Kevin Mitnick passed away, sadly, but there will be always another Kevin Mitnick ... Google will lose all respect from the community and will collapse sooner or later.

>>Daril+jL
> Take a look at Fuchsia for another example ... they are losing the control on Android, so they started this new project

I work on fuchsia and can honestly say I have no idea what you're talking about. Fuchsia and android are more complimentary than they are competitive. I've noticed that when there is a lack of information, people tend to invent things that fit their narrative, but that's a really dangerous habit.

>>surajr+WS
Perhaps you mean Flutter ?

>>Daril+t41
Hiroshi Lockheimer once confirmed that Fuchsia at this stage (to be exact, 4 years ago) is more of testbed for OS technologies that cannot be readily integrated into Android. It is quite absurd to say that Fuchsia is a competitor against Android. It is more close to Midori with a slightly clearer path to productization.

>>summer+jd1
And in the meantime it landed to the Nest Hubs ... I think Google will try to abandon Android.

>>Daril+6f1
Yeah, I think that's the ambitious moonshot at least for Fuchsia team, and Google might hope it to be realized. But it probably also acknowledges that it's a very unrealistic goal. More likely scenario is to gradually replace some important core systems (including its kernel?) with Fuchsia while keeping the overall Android ecosystem.

>>summer+LT5
I agree. I don't think they can abandon the Android ecosystem at all, I mean all the apps and the store, that's the real value. They could design a migration path for the apps and make them work seamlessly on Fuchsia in the meantime, gradually replacing the ecosystem with the promise of new "shiny" features for developers. Building an OS from scratch is very expensive in terms of resources and money. I cannot see a valid technical reason for this move. My view is that many projects are now using AOSP to build their own operating system and trying to get rid of Google services, which is a threat to Google and its business based on bombarding the user with ads. The biggest obstacle at the moment is getting the applications that rely on Google services to work. e/OS/ uses MicroG and in my personal experience everything works seamlessly, including banking applications. The other crucial aspect is the availability of stores for the apps. Aurora is just an alternative front-end client to Google PlayStore, but it is a huge step forward in removing direct dependency. e/OS/ has AppLounge which does the same thing. I'd certainly prefer to download and install my bank's app directly from a protected area of the bank's website rather than from a generic store. Implementing a custom authentication mechanism (e.g. signed with GPG) and an auto-update feature is certainly doable.