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1. methou+6v[view] [source] 2023-07-27 06:38:38
>>anigbr+(OP)
I was always hoping that given the fact that japanese population is dropping, they will want more foreigners in this Country. Yesterday marks my first anniversary in Japan. I love this Country and very keen to stay for naturalization based on my past experience with another non-free Country. People who has longer experience please correct me if I'm saying something stupid, what Japan stands out to me are:

* Overall it's a very affordable place and people are friendly by default.

* It is a free world Country if you care about freedom

* People take privacy seriously as parts of their daily matters, minimal data share. (unsure about the lucrative advertising business, please enligh)

* Comfortable level of tech, you can say it's low tech, but they got all the details right, and experience is great. (No aggresive behavior analysis, rare ily seen QR code for menu/ordering)

And some realities to offset the love: (Ordered low to high on impact, by personal feelings)

* Unfair compensations, a large majority of companies pays their employees in a Nenko System, basically your salary increments by the x years of service inside the company

* HIGH welfare tax, Nenkin will take away around 10% of your PRETAX income.

* Language, I love this Country and I would like to learn their culture and their language

* Etiquette, the Japanese way of daily routinal interactions are very much formulated, you can take vantage of that when you are fresh off boat and trying to do basic things like shopping and lodging. But say if your goal is to integrate into their society, it's going to be a long painful journey for the talented. I got a few friends spent better half of their lives in Japan who just gave up on becoming Japanese. One of which quitted so well that he occasionally violates social norms.

Bottom line: you will need a strong incentive to stay in Japan and start/move your family here, and your first experiences won't be good. So why would foreigners stay if it's next to impossible to become local. If you are doing well enough in the Country you are already within, then you definitely would miss it and go back.

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2. isykt+bA[view] [source] 2023-07-27 07:23:00
>>methou+6v
Japan is a totalitarian state, with the enforcement run by individuals. If you violate social norms, including not looking or sounding Japanese enough, you will be excluded.

You could become naturalized there, but you will never be Japanese, and you will never be treated as an equal.

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3. coldte+vC[view] [source] 2023-07-27 07:42:32
>>isykt+bA
And why should you? Is there some automatic right that one should have about being accepted into a foreign country and culture?
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4. isykt+0E[view] [source] 2023-07-27 07:52:32
>>coldte+vC
I happen to prefer dynamic, multicultural societies over static, xenophobic ones. From that I’m sure you can guess my own nationality.
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5. coldte+jH[view] [source] 2023-07-27 08:21:48
>>isykt+0E
>I happen to prefer dynamic, multicultural societies over static, xenophobic ones.

Can people in other societies have a say about what they want in the matter in their own society, or your also prefer the norms of you and your society imposed upon everybody?

("I like multiculturalism, as long as every country has the same cultural mindset as mine").

>From that I’m sure you can guess my own nationality.

Is it one where foreigners massacred and replaced the native population, took their land, relegated them to specific areas, and even took their children and closed them in camps? I guess those natives were xenophobic too.

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6. claudi+hM[view] [source] 2023-07-27 09:02:46
>>coldte+jH
>("I like multiculturalism, as long as every country has the same cultural mindset as mine").

To some degree, this isn't a bad idea. For example, I abhor female genital mulitaliton (FGM) and I don't think it's particularly wrong to say that regardless of it being the "culture" of some people, it shouldn't be done.

If I weren't a moral nihilist, I certainly wouldn't be a moral relativist.

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7. isykt+eX[view] [source] 2023-07-27 10:31:16
>>claudi+hM
People who generally oppose multiculturalism often assume their ideological opponent is an ardent adherent to cultural relativism, with their definition of cultural relativism being a very uncharitable one: i.e., “no culture is better than another, and it’s not okay to say something another culture does is bad.”

Cultural relativism is more useful in understanding why some people from different cultures behave the way they do, and examining if wither rejection of that behavior is based on a logical, beneficial value, or whether it’s based on the natural impulse to reject something foreign. Mistaken beliefs prevent cultural progress. Beliefs should be open to challenge.

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