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>>pabs3+(OP)
Blaming the engineers themselves?

>>k4rli+C4
They are the ones doing the work. They certainly have a choice not to.

>>Modern+z5
The same engineers doing this in exchange for money, healthcare, etc to put food on their tables and provide for their families?

Not everyone has the ability to act on said 'choice' and risk their jobs, income, benefits.

>>rovr13+J6
If anyone does, it’s Google engineers. How much are they paid again? $100k? $200k? $300k? Seriously they have no agency here?

>>Modern+m7
How much is the cost of living? Lifestyle creep? Do they have anyone at home sick and they're the only ones working while also living in a high cost of living area?

It's not that easy.

>>rovr13+k8
Standing up for your principles is never easy when it counts the most. Usually it's going to cost something. Sometimes that's a fat salary and a cushy job.

>>Modern+Ta
And is everyone, or should everyone, be willing to risk that fat salary, cushy job, benefits for their principles if it means risking the quality of life for their family?

Do any of them support a sick kid, spouse, parent? Any of them send money home?

All I'm saying is that some of them might not be in a situation in which they could, on a whim, risk getting fired. And we shouldn't blame them because the fix for that is not on their hands.

>>rovr13+1c
> And is everyone, or should everyone, be willing to risk that fat salary, cushy job, benefits for their principles if it means risking the quality of life for their family?

Google engineers are not special. Everyone has a situation, and family, and bills. Everyone has a parent who will die one day. Everyone hits hard times. Everyone faces tests of character at inopportune times. Very few of those people are making $300k a year tho, and nonetheless making the rightethical choices every day. Why can't Google engineers?

That's why I said standing up for your principles is difficult. If it were easy, everyone would do it.