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1. troupo+ft[view] [source] 2023-07-26 13:04:10
>>ColinW+(OP)
The link to Yoav Weiss's blog is great.

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So, you don't like a web platform proposal

...you may feel that your insights and experience can be valuable to help steer the platform from making what you're sure is a huge mistake. That's great!! Getting involved in web platform discussions is essential to ensure it's built for and by everyone.

...

In cases where controversial browser proposals (or lack of adoption for features folks want, which is a related, but different, subject), it's not uncommon to see issues with dozens or even hundreds of comments from presumably well-intentioned folks, trying to influence the team working on the feature to change their minds.

In the many years I've been working on the web platform, I've yet to see this work. Not even once.

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"We do so love for everyone to join the discussion. It also never influences our decisions, not once"

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2. theK+Vv[view] [source] 2023-07-26 13:15:46
>>troupo+ft
There's two aspects to that actually.

1. Often the feedback goes completely to the wrong address. You won't stop Google from doing google things. 2. Most often the depth level at which the discussions on web standard are made will alienate most people, so instead of participating in "standards making" they turn somewhere else (1.).

The web is awesome and it got awesome because for the first 15 years of its existence it was actually very straight forward to run a web entity. But success brought ever growing companies and ever more complex interests. The discussions also vary a lot nowadays. There are still things being done to make the web more approachable but at the same time we see stuff like "Web Environment Integrity", DRM etc.

The problem is that a process that requires the public to be vigilant will eventually fail if the public cannot appoint people to be vigilant full time for them.

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