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1. zmmmmm+Dn5[view] [source] 2023-07-23 23:42:49
>>Kinran+(OP)
Struggling to figure out what "cloud native" actually means. Unfortunately their own web site doesn't say and the CNCF web site they link to leaves me none the wiser.

At a guess they are talking about applications being built from the ground up to dynamically allocate resources using cloud providers APIs directly rather than relying on an assumption fixed resources are already provisioned and the application runs within them.

I wonder if I'm right ...

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2. re-thc+lH5[view] [source] 2023-07-24 02:30:51
>>zmmmmm+Dn5
> Struggling to figure out what "cloud native" actually means.

- very fast startup

- low memory

- can be easily distributed or is stateless

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3. xuanca+OP5[view] [source] 2023-07-24 03:57:50
>>re-thc+lH5
That is not what cloud native means. It is an overloaded term, but the basic idea is that the application is designed to operate in the cloud environment, utilizing cloud's capabilities such as elastic and automated infrastructure management.
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4. re-thc+wS5[view] [source] 2023-07-24 04:35:06
>>xuanca+OP5
> That is not what cloud native means. > utilizing cloud's capabilities such as elastic and automated infrastructure management.

Contradictory perhaps? So it's not what it means but it is what it means?

In order to achieve what you've said in vague terms you definitely do need to try to be stateless, have fast startup and reduce memory. Clear examples are things like lambda and fargate.

How can you be elastic if you have an application server that takes 10 minutes to start?

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5. xuanca+smb[view] [source] 2023-07-25 15:55:00
>>re-thc+wS5
I'm pretty sure that Aurora DB can be called a "Cloud-native application" but its startup time is not fast and memory footprint is not small.
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