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1. mabbo+Wd[view] [source] 2023-07-24 22:14:55
>>jakobd+(OP)
> Exactly how the rest of the world feels about this is not necessarily relevant, though. Google owns the world's most popular web browser, the world's largest advertising network, the world's biggest search engine, the world's most popular operating system, and some of the world's most popular websites. So really, Google can do whatever it wants.

This is the point that company breakups start to make a lot of sense.

When Google can do something that every one of it's users hates and none of us can do anything about it, they perhaps have too much market power.

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2. kelnos+Ji[view] [source] 2023-07-24 22:43:27
>>mabbo+Wd
> When Google can do something that every one of it's users hates

I don't think this is remotely the case. Quite a few tech-savvy people I know (some of them software developers) use Chrome and mostly don't care about whatever Google does with it. I mention "manifest v3" and get a blank stare. I talk about advertising and ad blockers, and most people don't care, with some of them not even using ad blockers.

We really live in a bubble, here on HN. Most people think of privacy as some abstract thing that they have little control over, and are mostly fine with that. And some are even also fine with government erosion of privacy, in the name of "save the children" style arguments, and of corporate erosion of privacy, in the name of getting free stuff in exchange for their personal information.

It's a sad state of affairs. If most people really did care strongly about these sorts of issues, then I think it would be baffling why we haven't seen more change here -- after all, Firefox is a perfectly viable alternative to Chrome that very few people use. But the lack of change is no surprise: most people don't care.

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3. 1vuio0+kR[view] [source] 2023-07-25 03:15:19
>>kelnos+Ji
"Exactly how the rest of the world feels about this is not necessarily relevant, though."

This quote is from page 2 of the article. It is common for certain HN commenters to remind us that HN is a bubble. True. However, the author of this article is not necessarily in this bubble.

But, honestly, what difference does it make whether HN is a bubble or not. Google is a bubble. The Register, another entity outside the HN bubble, calls Google "The Chocolate Factory".^1 Does it matter that Google is a bubble.

1. Of course it's also common for certain HN commenters to try to broadly dismiss all journalism, on a news aggregator site no less. Maybe there is a pattern here.

Would anyone outside the HN bubble try to discredit the observations about so-called "tech" companies mabe by those inside it. (Besides those with vested interests in so-called "tech" companies.) All evidence I've seen since 2009 points to the contrary.

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