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>>pessim+(OP)
This is what affirmative action should be... helping people out based on their individual situation, not because their skin color or gender.

>>getmei+F5
> what affirmative action should be... helping people out based on their individual situation

Also, just helping them out. Nobody gets hurt. This isn't creating an allotment of seats for foster kids. The selection process, and thus odds, are the same for them and everyone else.

>>JumpCr+r7
Generally state colleges will take any applicant who meets the pre-set bar. Where as tier 1 universities are more a zero sum game.

>>bushba+n8
University of California, Washington, and Texas are hardly uncompetitive. Their admission rates are very low for the good programs.

>>KRAKRI+Ph
UC's are a huge exception, yes. The better equivalent is the CSU system and even then it's relatively competitive comared to other public unis.

>>johnny+al
> UC's are a huge exception

UNC Chapel Hill, UVA, Virginia Tech, College of William & Mary, Georgia Tech, UT Austin, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, University of Wisconsin Madison, Purdue...

America has a solid stable of top-tier public universities.

>>JumpCr+Ro
yes that is a good list of 20+ universities (if I throw in the prestigious UC's) out of... 1700 public institutions.

Pareto heuristics suggest there will be about 300 "good" universities that people compete over compared to the other 1300 we can't name.