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1. getmei+F5[view] [source] 2023-07-23 22:02:52
>>pessim+(OP)
This is what affirmative action should be... helping people out based on their individual situation, not because their skin color or gender.
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2. JumpCr+r7[view] [source] 2023-07-23 22:16:00
>>getmei+F5
> what affirmative action should be... helping people out based on their individual situation

Also, just helping them out. Nobody gets hurt. This isn't creating an allotment of seats for foster kids. The selection process, and thus odds, are the same for them and everyone else.

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3. INGSOC+N9[view] [source] 2023-07-23 22:29:16
>>JumpCr+r7
This is exactly correct. Fairness and equality.
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4. j45+La[view] [source] 2023-07-23 22:35:17
>>INGSOC+N9
Equality is very different than equity.

https://onlinepublichealth.gwu.edu/resources/equity-vs-equal...

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5. JumpCr+Fb[view] [source] 2023-07-23 22:40:31
>>j45+La
> Equality is very different than equity

How old are these definitions?

I've only seen them used this way in public policy circles, and left-leaning ones at that. It's also totally discontinuous with the treatment of equality in classical literature.

Put another way, isn't equity just a masking term for top-to-bottom wealth transfers?

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6. j45+Gm[view] [source] 2023-07-24 00:05:52
>>JumpCr+Fb
Hm, if you’re looking at left or (by your own omission right) and don’t have one to share yourself I’d be thinking about the why behind your common.

Would you say Equality and equity are the same?

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7. JumpCr+ap[view] [source] 2023-07-24 00:29:58
>>j45+Gm
> Would you say Equality and equity are the same?

It depends on with whom I'm speaking. Even the Wikipedia page for the former is a disambiguation [1].

The historical (and international) use of the former is closer to that of egalitarianism [2]. I fail to see what is gained by redefining equality and creating the term equity when equal opportunity vs. equality of outcome has decades of scholarship behind it, to say nothing of being clearer on first glance.

I don't know enough to render judgement. But it smells like the tail-chasing semantics the social sciences love, randomly re-appropriating jargon instead of debating the underlying problem.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism

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