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1. Aurorn+Nm[view] [source] 2023-07-20 15:44:18
>>pabs3+(OP)
> Nobody really expects to be able to find anything of value in a Google search now

This is a categorically false premise. The kind of statement that only makes sense when you're in a deep bubble and entirely removed from the average person's use of the internet.

Deliberately removing yourself from Google is fine for the author who is more concerned about taking an ideological stance than they are about being discoverable, but removing yourself from Google is terribly bad advice for anyone who wants to help people find their content.

Many people do use Google to find content and people, even if you don't.

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2. deltar+Ey[view] [source] 2023-07-20 16:29:39
>>Aurorn+Nm
>This is a categorically false premise

This is accurate, somewhat. A lot of people do expect to find things of value when the use Google to search.

But people who are more technical know it's a bit of a faff and bother to get Google to spit out what you're actually looking for, outside of "who is Chloe Grace Moretz" or something equally banal.

And Google-the-Company does treat the Internet like it is their corporate property. Alphabet won't change unless it's made to do so.

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3. distor+NJ[view] [source] 2023-07-20 17:18:06
>>deltar+Ey
I'm not sure that I agree.

My brother tried to set me up with a girl last week. She has a pretty uncommon name. Googled her. Found... a lot of stuff.

I have a VERY common name. Think multiple (relatively) famous people (photographers, US Medal of Honor winner, enough lawyers to choke a court system for DECADES), but if you google my name and the city I live in (1,000,000+ people), my LinkedIn is like the second result.

For everyone saying that Google has gotten worse over the time they've been using it, these two use cases (which are pretty challenging) do really still work.

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4. deltar+IT[view] [source] 2023-07-20 17:59:43
>>distor+NJ
Okay, but now try "what's the best gaming laptop?" or something similar. This is the sort of query that, at one time, would unearth some nerd's web site alongside PCWorld or whatever.

Now it's seven pages of nearly identical listicles, some of which are on bizarre domains like "DougsAutoBodyAndFlowerShop.com", and all of which are festooned with ads, also provided by Google.

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5. distor+DV[view] [source] 2023-07-20 18:10:05
>>deltar+IT
Ok, I'll try that.

Top results (excluding sponsors b/c UBlock Origin):

PC Gamer

The Verge

Games Radar

Youtube (channel: Jarrod's Tech)

A giant ad showing some laptops to buy

Youtube (channel: PC Builder)

RTINGS.com

PC Magazine

Youtube (channel: Top Tech Now)

CNET

Tom's Hardware

Another giant ad showing some laptops to buy

Engadget

PC Magazine

Laptop Mag

TechRadar

These are mainstream tech press sites. And maybe the reason that it's a bunch of similar listicles is because the thing you're looking for (a laptop) is a product with relatively few entries in the market.

What are you expecting here that Google isn't giving you? I'm trying to be as charitable as possible, but, for me, the expected results are about as good as I could hope for.

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6. distor+yX[view] [source] 2023-07-20 18:19:05
>>distor+DV
I want to point out - if you get to the seventh page of Google, it's been known for some time that those results are... specious at best. Check out this xkcd from almost a decade ago:

https://xkcd.com/1334/

https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1334:_Second

If you're really going to page 7 of Google... man, that's a desperation I've never known.

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7. deltar+221[view] [source] 2023-07-20 18:38:52
>>distor+yX
I've searched for various weird error messages and ended up far into the Lands of Deep Pagination before, trying to find some glimmer of hope that I can unbrick whatever beep-boop thing I broke.

It is a violent and windswept place, barren of joy or peace.

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