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1. travel+Zo[view] [source] 2023-07-06 16:00:31
>>gmays+(OP)
Disclaimer: I'm not a climate change denier, I think we should stop burning fossil fuels ASAP.

Though I'm one to question a lot of things and this is my 2 cents. How the hell we know this current changes are completely abnormal? I read about some weird climate anomalies centuries ago and of course there's a lot of evidence that current events are completely abnormal but one question always come to my mind.

What if we're wrong? What if we're being too cooky thinking that by having looked into some evidence that made sense, we're not completely wrong here and current events are just part of a cycle in the planet weather?

Again, I'm questioning but I don't need you guys to present me the proof, I'm aware of it. Just questioning if we're not wrong all along and are here destroying our mental health for nothing. Seems like even by the 1940s standards our generation is being constantly swarmed with problems which we can't fix, which are causing all sort of mental issues due to the complete stress we live in.

This being said, the switch from fossil fuels should be done ASAP, even if we're wrong and it's not causing issues in the environment, they are for sure causing health issues.

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2. pphysc+wq[view] [source] 2023-07-06 16:06:47
>>travel+Zo
It's healthy to be skeptical about the fearmongering and narrative control, while also promoting ecological policies.

A recent example: Nordstream bombing was the "worst case of environmental terrorism in modern history". US govt blames Ukrainian actors[1]. Yet Greta Thunberg hasn't made a peep about it, and recently did a photo op with the Ukrainian govt, which also hasn't spoke out about it.

It's unbelievably cynical. For some people, environmentalism is just a means to power.

[1] - https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-intelligence-suggest...

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3. pohl+1D[view] [source] 2023-07-06 16:50:25
>>pphysc+wq
If I search for your quotation — "worst case of environmental terrorism in modern history" — Google only surfaces this thread. Whose assessment were you citing, and what did they actually say?
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4. pphysc+nD[view] [source] 2023-07-06 16:51:48
>>pohl+1D
Paraphrasing, I've heard similar phrases used.

Do you have a better candidate for worst act of environmental terrorism? I'm open to amending that wording, or dropping the quotes if they are causing distress.

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5. pohl+HD[view] [source] 2023-07-06 16:52:53
>>pphysc+nD
Yeah, using quotation marks when paraphrasing is super confusing. Still, paraphrasing what or whom?

I guess I'd need to know a working definition for environmental terrorism. I've heard of eco-terrorism before, but that's generally thought to be the use of violence to further environmental policy change, which isn't want happened in the case in question.

After we have that working definition, I'd like to know why it's important that one particular young private citizen not connected with the incident be held accountable to having a statement about it.

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