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>>ZacnyL+(OP)
Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine.

And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick.

...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

>>brucet+1k
On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated.

I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

>>redox9+tv
“On Mastodon” is like saying “in restaurants”. There’s a wide variety of instances to various tastes.

>>ceejay+Wv
Yes, but the point being made is that you then choose a more welcoming instance and then it's defederated instead because it allowed your post, so then your Mastodon experience sucks anyway and you only gave yourself an illusion of freedom.

I'm not sure how common this issue is but I _can_ say that I've been through a defederation bullshit myself because the large instance did something as egregious as welcoming people regardless alignment to Swedish government party (i.e. any party with over 4% of votes in Sweden). That was far too much for some instances like mastodon.art to handle. The admin got fed up since he had neither will nor moderation resources of that kind and shut down the instance, so everyone had to migrate which is a headache by its own even if supported.

From other stories, I swear the greatest threat to the Fediverse is politics and more or less childish cross-instance strife. I just now checked my Mastodon feed and this very fucking issue was discussed once more so I guess some drama has went down again while I was away. There's been trouble of this kind on Lemmy too already.

People say "it's like e-mail". Yeah, if we have like 20 major e-mail servers in the world and there's drama across them as we bet on the winners via Patreon.

>>jug+Bw
Maybe you can make you own instance and then you can have all the swedish government parties you want

>>VWWHFS+ax
And then I get defederated for having done so. Did you even read my post? It's an illusion freedom that does not exist in practice because this is Mastodon we're talking about.

>>jug+Qx

  > And then I get defederated for having done so.

if i don't like what someone is saying i have the freedom to disassociate from them, wether its in real-life or in mastodon or whatever

  > It's an illusion freedom that does not exist in practice because this is Mastodon we're talking about.

i think you are confusing freedom with privilege.

>>andrek+UU
> if i don't like what someone is saying i have the freedom to disassociate from them

Yeah, on Mastodon we usually do so by not following that person?

This is not what I'm talking about but the infrastructure issue of internal strife between admins affecting tens of thousands of users for the most ridiculous of reasons, and this has not just been a hypothetical scenario, unfortunately.

And no, setting up your personal instance isn't a realistic solution for most people who just want to chat.