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1. extr+k4[view] [source] 2023-06-14 01:04:46
>>stanis+(OP)
I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.
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2. Terr_+S5[view] [source] 2023-06-14 01:13:55
>>extr+k4
> It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled.

Well, assuming Reddit executives were telling the truth about their goals/needs, which I don't think they are.

They claim the purpose was some kind of emergency band-aid to stop the service from hemorrhaging cash from evil large-scale data-sucking AI developers without compensation... But in that case, they could have simply introduced it as a fresh terms-of-service restriction, with some payment-tier to come later that permits that use of the data.

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3. jprete+9d[view] [source] 2023-06-14 02:03:26
>>Terr_+S5
I don't think Reddit was telling the truth either.

But AI developers/companies seem to almost universally believe they have fair-use rights to train their models on any data they can get their hands on, and a sufficiently expensive API at least forces them to do engineering work to get all the data. So at the time I believed Reddit's reasoning.

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4. tetris+3g[view] [source] 2023-06-14 02:26:06
>>jprete+9d
Pushshift was the best unofficial reddit API for years, and did so without any funding problems
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5. jprete+eh[view] [source] 2023-06-14 02:35:23
>>tetris+3g
I'm talking about deterring ML data harvesting, or at least getting a better price for it.
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6. Semaph+1l[view] [source] 2023-06-14 03:11:02
>>jprete+eh
If it were about ML, why did they go heavily after third-party apps, even making up lies about one of the developers?
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