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1. gaudat+XX[view] [source] 2023-05-31 21:47:34
>>robbie+(OP)
I have a story to tell, about the demise of one of the largest internet forums in my language.

About ten years ago, when smartphones just started appearing, the forum did not have a mobile version, and there are various 3rd party clients on the App Store or Android Market.

Later on, one of the largest 3rd party client was blocked, because of they hammering the forum's servers too hard,. Or something about caching and stealing ad revenue.

Then a couple years later, in 2017, the 3rd party client's devs launched its own forum reusing the client's name. It exploded in popularity and quickly took over as the most popular message board among the youth.

The old forum now has a sort of boomer or mentally ill stigma to it.

I hope to see Apollo go down this route.

Oh, and I think both forums in the story did not monetize as hard as reddit going to paid awards and memberships.

One more thought: Keep the Apollo UI or whatever thing the users are most familiar with. Most of them do not care if it is fediverse or open source or backed by web-scale k8s, they only want it to just work (tm) good enough to post things on it. Eat the lunch you prepared yourself.

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2. ornorn+VD1[view] [source] 2023-06-01 03:54:10
>>gaudat+XX
Christian (Apollo’s author, the Reddit app in question) isn’t a paragon of virtue either.

The app has been regularly nagging existing paid users, who paid to remove ads in the app, about “amazing” deals to “upgrade” to a monthly subscription to the app to get some virtual stickers and other silly things of dubious value over and over. People complain about it every time they come up on the Apollo subreddit, directly mention the app’s author, who has yet to ever respond on this matter.

I think Reddit is being greedy, but I’m only sad if Apollo goes away because the Reddit client is so shitty; not because I love Apollo.

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3. monocu+pJ1[view] [source] 2023-06-01 05:04:27
>>ornorn+VD1
Oh please. I paid for ad-free Apollo a long time ago and the prompts to upgrade to the subscription client are extremely rare and not obtrusive.
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4. ornorn+MJ1[view] [source] 2023-06-01 05:09:27
>>monocu+pJ1
That's the thing with opinions: they're personal.

I get nags to upgrade to something I couldn't care less about, in an app I paid to avoid these ads and nags, every time I open the app (i.e. multiple times per day) on "promo" days (i.e. any US holiday)

These nags have also been disingenuous, because the price will usually go up on "promo" days so that Apollo advertises a "special deal" that is basically the price it's always been before. It's advertised with a full-screen popup upon opening the app (or while using the app)

If it was no big deal and nobody minded, there wouldn't be a slew of posts complaining about it every time, and the app's author wouldn't consistently ignore these posts and comments as he has done every time while always answering praise and positive comments in the same threads and subreddits.

Selling me something to remove all ads and then showing me your own ads anyway is dishonest. Either mention this at the time of payment, or make it opt-in like virtually every other company I deal with (aka "do you want our marketing material?")

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