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1. gaudat+XX[view] [source] 2023-05-31 21:47:34
>>robbie+(OP)
I have a story to tell, about the demise of one of the largest internet forums in my language.

About ten years ago, when smartphones just started appearing, the forum did not have a mobile version, and there are various 3rd party clients on the App Store or Android Market.

Later on, one of the largest 3rd party client was blocked, because of they hammering the forum's servers too hard,. Or something about caching and stealing ad revenue.

Then a couple years later, in 2017, the 3rd party client's devs launched its own forum reusing the client's name. It exploded in popularity and quickly took over as the most popular message board among the youth.

The old forum now has a sort of boomer or mentally ill stigma to it.

I hope to see Apollo go down this route.

Oh, and I think both forums in the story did not monetize as hard as reddit going to paid awards and memberships.

One more thought: Keep the Apollo UI or whatever thing the users are most familiar with. Most of them do not care if it is fediverse or open source or backed by web-scale k8s, they only want it to just work (tm) good enough to post things on it. Eat the lunch you prepared yourself.

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2. sockad+T11[view] [source] 2023-05-31 22:08:23
>>gaudat+XX
Yup. I'd join Apollo if it was substantially similar. They could not possibly make a worse UI than the current "new" reddit web UI so the bar is pretty low.
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3. foo102+f51[view] [source] 2023-05-31 22:28:34
>>sockad+T11
I have recently searched for some open source alternative to reddit. Lemmy.ml seems to be a fediverse alternative, and have a nice web UI and apps, though the site is pretty much empty. If popular 3rd party app could join force and migrating to lemmy because of reddit's brain-dead pricing. It will be interesting.
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4. spurgu+tA1[view] [source] 2023-06-01 03:10:39
>>foo102+f51
I tried out Lemmy a year or two ago (it seemed nice) but found that they had a hard-coded list of "bad words" that automatically got censored, some of them quite soft (and with dual meaning), like "bitch". So yeah, I quickly uninstalled it once I realized that. How the fuck are you going to run, say, a dog breeding node? Or just have any kind of semi-normal adult discussion where people aren't bothered by cursing? No thanks - as a moderator I (my community) would want to choose what to censor myself.

It might have changed since then but from what I remember of reading through the lead devs reasoning behind the "feature" I want no part of that ecosystem.

Edit: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622

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5. dugite+nG1[view] [source] 2023-06-01 04:24:23
>>spurgu+tA1
Lemmy's devs have a long history of questionable actions and opinions that goes beyond the slur filter. I'm afraid it will forever be condemned to be a low traffic fringe project.
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6. wrapti+nH1[view] [source] 2023-06-01 04:36:23
>>dugite+nG1
The curse of reddit alternatives. It's always some fringe group that starts it and scares everyone else off. I was an early Lemmy adopter but being from post-soviet country just couldn't handle the ignorant tankie politics being injected into every discussion. There's just no sane leadership.
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