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1. gaudat+XX[view] [source] 2023-05-31 21:47:34
>>robbie+(OP)
I have a story to tell, about the demise of one of the largest internet forums in my language.

About ten years ago, when smartphones just started appearing, the forum did not have a mobile version, and there are various 3rd party clients on the App Store or Android Market.

Later on, one of the largest 3rd party client was blocked, because of they hammering the forum's servers too hard,. Or something about caching and stealing ad revenue.

Then a couple years later, in 2017, the 3rd party client's devs launched its own forum reusing the client's name. It exploded in popularity and quickly took over as the most popular message board among the youth.

The old forum now has a sort of boomer or mentally ill stigma to it.

I hope to see Apollo go down this route.

Oh, and I think both forums in the story did not monetize as hard as reddit going to paid awards and memberships.

One more thought: Keep the Apollo UI or whatever thing the users are most familiar with. Most of them do not care if it is fediverse or open source or backed by web-scale k8s, they only want it to just work (tm) good enough to post things on it. Eat the lunch you prepared yourself.

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2. Nifty3+lA1[view] [source] 2023-06-01 03:08:39
>>gaudat+XX
This is what everybody thinks, until they grow large enough to care about the amount of money they’re burning and get tired of it. Then they try to not lose so much money, and their loyal users turn out not to be so loyal.
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3. rgbgra+hC1[view] [source] 2023-06-01 03:31:23
>>Nifty3+lA1
All reddit is doing is storing text and serving it to people.

This not expensive or a hard problem. You grab a bunch of servers, you set them up properly, and then you write your app properly.

No resume-driven bullshit; no hype-driven bullshit; no “we need to be galaxy scale now” bullshit. No email notifications, besides basic “thanks for registering, here is your login” and “here’s a password reset link.” No cloud-based bullshit. Don’t use fucking python. Use a real systems language to eek out as much performance as you can from the hardware. Actually understand databases and how your specific databases work. Use Postgres unless you have a very good reason not to.

Just a few thousand dollars a month, and a brief reprieve from short-term mania to actually think, and you too can literally serve 1 billion pages a day.

Why does everyone run into problems with this? Because they have personal hang-ups and delude themselves (or simply don’t care). This path has been tread numerous times before. The mistakes have been made thousands of times. The people who made those mistakes are available to help you out (for the right price, or if you’re good enough company).

I am sick and tired of systems engineering being grandized, when all you have to do is sit down somewhere quiet and think about the problem — with a bit of tea, and some way to access reference material.

Reddit is not a hard or interesting problem.

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