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>>ReadCa+(OP)
Mozilla has pulled a lot of dumb crap over the years, but this crossed a hard red line.

I defended them with Pocket, with promotions in the new tab screen, with dumb wastes of time like Colorways. I've continued to evangelize Firefox in spite of the fact that I knew the company had lost touch with reality because I want there to be an alternative to chromium-based browsers.

Today I'm done. I can shrug off promos in the new tab page, in the settings, whatever. But there are no second chances for full-page pop-up ads, especially when the "oops" is in the timing code. "Oops, you were supposed to see that after 20 minutes inactivity" doesn't cut it.

Mozilla has lost it, and I'm done defending them and evangelizing for them.

>>lolind+xi
Agreed. There have been many defenders of Firefox on HN. I’m not sure why after all the crap they have pulled over the years.

Unrelated mini rants.

1. They fill the default new tab page with garbage content. They have amazing reach with viewers. It’s a shame they can’t fill it with quality stuff. I understand you have to pay the bills, but at least find some balance.

2. Firefox 47.x was the greatest release. I’ve never been able to keep hundreds of tabs open with Firefox. Eventually Firefox eats up so much RAM and eventually crashes. Chromium based browsers can have multiple windows with hundreds of tabs each and not crash even after being open for days/weeks.

>>iJohnD+zp
My desktop has over 2000 tabs open in Firefox. Memory footprint is slightly over 3 gigs. I usually manage to keep the laptop tab count under 1000. Honestly I think you're the first person I've ever heard praise Chrome(ium) for gracefully handling high tab counts.

I'm not a fan Mitchell Baker or many of the ways Mozilla works these days. But in the pulling crap department, Google and Microsoft have given Mozilla a very low bar to clear.

>>zargon+GQ
One question... why?

>>operat+KQ
It costs nothing to keep a tab (you had every intention to revisit later) open, especially when tabs can be auto unloaded to free up memory, either by an addon or the browser itself. Firefox unlike Chrome does not keep squashing more tabs in the tab strip forever, but lets them scroll horizontally out of sight to maintain a readable minimum width for each tab. Over a long enough period of time you can get 2000 open tabs. Modern browsers can handle it.

>>lionel+fm3
This is not my personal experience. If I let a tab alone and that tab has a looping GIF then Firefox get slower and unresponsive (and eat memory).

You can try it with an imgur link: https://imgur.com/gallery/gom01RZ (sfw, vid/loop of a boa constrictor drinking water from a glass).