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1. pyuser+ab[view] [source] 2023-05-29 00:38:52
>>Anon84+(OP)
Yeah but “banning books” isn’t much of a thing. Even the ALA talks about “challenged books.”

And most of the controversy involves school libraries - although there are some exceptions.

This bill just doesn’t do much. I’m not opposed to it. I guess it might do a little good.

But it’s posturing by politicians.

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2. woodru+Xc[view] [source] 2023-05-29 00:55:28
>>pyuser+ab
> And most of the controversy involves school libraries - although there are some exceptions.

This is splitting hairs: removing books from school libraries is a de facto ban on those books. Neither the article nor law implies that "book ban" in this context means anything other than "school book ban."

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3. imgabe+4D[view] [source] 2023-05-29 05:39:36
>>woodru+Xc
> removing books from school libraries is a de facto ban on those books.

No, it isn't. There are millions of books that aren't in school libraries. Are they all de facto banned?

Confidently declaring something doesn't make it true. A library deciding not to carry a book is not a book ban.

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4. woodru+BE[view] [source] 2023-05-29 05:55:39
>>imgabe+4D
This is the fifth or sixth time someone has started a thread with this “gotcha,” and the answer is still no: curation is a logistical concern, not a doctrinal one. Banning is a consequence of doctrine; curation is a consequence of books being expensive to categorize and store.
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5. mattma+oF[view] [source] 2023-05-29 06:02:06
>>woodru+BE
I disagree that the fact that it is removed from a shelf for doctrinal reasons is banning. It’s only banning if it’s actually banned, meaning you can’t have it at all, like Mein Kampf in Germany.

There’s surely a more accurate term than banning or curation here.

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6. laserd+MP[view] [source] 2023-05-29 08:06:48
>>mattma+oF
Mein Kampf has never been banned from possession in Germany. It just has not been published in the post-WW2 decades because the copyright holder, the Free State of Bavaria, decided to just not publish it and withhold the right to do so from anybody else. One could readily purchase, sell, or trade old copies at an antiquarian bookstore.

It's now in the public domain, so one could even set up a little publishing company and publish it oneself.

And it's an incredibly awful book, measured to all the 'fame' it holds in certain circles.

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