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1. pyuser+ab[view] [source] 2023-05-29 00:38:52
>>Anon84+(OP)
Yeah but “banning books” isn’t much of a thing. Even the ALA talks about “challenged books.”

And most of the controversy involves school libraries - although there are some exceptions.

This bill just doesn’t do much. I’m not opposed to it. I guess it might do a little good.

But it’s posturing by politicians.

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2. woodru+Xc[view] [source] 2023-05-29 00:55:28
>>pyuser+ab
> And most of the controversy involves school libraries - although there are some exceptions.

This is splitting hairs: removing books from school libraries is a de facto ban on those books. Neither the article nor law implies that "book ban" in this context means anything other than "school book ban."

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3. george+ye[view] [source] 2023-05-29 01:13:39
>>woodru+Xc
I don't understand how you would think the two are the same.

A ban implies to me the book cannot be sold at all which is hardly splitting hairs.

And did you find it just as egregious when Huckleberry Finn was banned in new york and california schools and public libraries for using the "n" word?

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4. woodru+5f[view] [source] 2023-05-29 01:19:24
>>george+ye
> A ban implies to me the book cannot be sold at all which is hardly splitting hairs.

Every American that I know (including myself) understands the phrase "book ban" to refer widely, if not exclusively, to school libraries in the context of American politics. It's been nearly 70 years since we've had otherwise politically notable book bans[1].

> And did you find it just as egregious when Huckleberry Finn was banned in new york and california schools and public libraries for using the "n" word?

Yes.

[1]: https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/banned-books-wee...

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5. Prickl+Wi[view] [source] 2023-05-29 02:02:48
>>woodru+5f
I have never met an American, or anyone of any nationality that understands "book bans" refer exclusively to school libraries.

You are the first.

Book bans are bans on books, at a national or state/local government level.

Bans on books within a school have been a thing for a relatively long time where I am. Usually managed by the local school council for various different reasons.

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6. blowsk+DF[view] [source] 2023-05-29 06:05:30
>>Prickl+Wi
I’m British though quite an avid follower of US news. I have listened to podcasts discussing book bans (e.g. Jon Ronson) and much of the discussion was around removing books from school libraries.

Additionally, I searched “fox news book bans” and “nbc book bans” and these were the first links that came up.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/choice-lies-parent-texas-dad-supp...

> Maia Kobabe’s book "Gender Queer" became one of the most banned books in the country in 2022. The book has been at the center of the debate over what books should be banned in schools.

https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/map-book-bans-rise-rcn...

> School districts in 26 states have banned more than 1,000 books in the past nine months

Additionally, the Wikipedia article “ 2021–2022 book banning in the United States” discusses various cases of books being withdrawn from school libraries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%932022_book_banning...

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