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1. sandya+k4[view] [source] 2023-05-26 16:00:46
>>airhan+(OP)
I noticed this yesterday. I've been using Mozilla/Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox as my primary browser for over 20 years. They've made some questionable calls, sure, but most of the recent things that have bothered people (like Pocket integration) haven't really irked me.

This is the first time where I got a visceral feeling that maybe this isn't the browser I knew and loved anymore. It's not like I'm uninstalling and switching to something else, but I do feel bummed out.

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2. ilikep+g6[view] [source] 2023-05-26 16:10:26
>>sandya+k4
Did you miss the episode in 2017 in which they used an internal control to force the installation of an add-on as part of a promotion for a television show?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15941302

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15940144

I feel similarly to you...long-time user, bummed out by stuff like this. Sometimes it feels like Firefox would be a lot better off without Mozilla occasionally making deals like this.

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3. 0cf861+Ub[view] [source] 2023-05-26 16:33:47
>>ilikep+g6
I read a conspiracy that Google has paid off Mozilla management to specifically sabotage the browser development. Actions like this make it hard to dispute the moves that frequently seem deliberately anti-user.
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4. dehrma+9g[view] [source] 2023-05-26 16:49:38
>>0cf861+Ub
Th other conspiracy I've heard is Google subsidizes Mozilla so they have a credible claim there's competition in the market.
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5. wongar+qs[view] [source] 2023-05-26 17:45:38
>>dehrma+9g
Doing both makes sense. Google has a clear motive to keep Firefox in the market, at the same time they have repeatedly shown that they want Firefox to have the smallest market share possible. For antitrust purposes it might be enough to show "people could to Firefox", even if nobody does.
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