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1. Crimso+V6[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:29:03
>>ReadCa+(OP)
From the link:

https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/browser/components/n...

"Messaging System"

"Vision"

"Firefox must be an opinionated user agent that keeps folks safe, informed and effective while browsing the Web. In order to have an opinion, Firefox must have a voice."

"That voice will respect the user’s attention while surfacing contextually relevant and timely information tailored to their individual needs and choices."

Somewhere in all of these companies exists the belligerent ** who orders the subordinates to inject inappropriate profit-seeking changes into the product. And then cajole/order/encourage another subordinate to write a florid virtuous editorial justifying their belligerent idea.

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2. ReadCa+s7[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:33:03
>>Crimso+V6
> write a florid virtuous editorial

Related: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/mozilla-now-only-...

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3. dingle+z8[view] [source] 2023-05-25 23:41:39
>>ReadCa+s7
Thanks so much for linking that. This is 1000% on point and I'm so confused with what mozilla has been doing the past few years. It's like the organization as a whole suffered a stroke, and the result is this flowery meaningless prose.
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4. TedDoe+XM[view] [source] 2023-05-26 05:36:40
>>dingle+z8
This is why Mozilla lost a lot of volunteers, too, including me.

I did not wish to contribute to a political organization. I wished to contribute to a browser. It’s not possible to do one without the other at Mozilla, although it used to be.

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5. garte+2T[view] [source] 2023-05-26 06:34:32
>>TedDoe+XM
It doesn't feel like politics to me. More like marketing and economics.

A browser could theoretically be politically engaged by ensuring open web standards and accessibility etc. but this is not that, me thinks.

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6. tialar+D71[view] [source] 2023-05-26 08:52:16
>>garte+2T
When people oppose "Politics" they usually mean politics they don't agree with. The politics they do agree with aren't "politics" to them, that's just a normal part of everyday life and it's crazy that other people try to claim that's "politics".

If you have a broader understanding of what politics is in the first place you're not going to object to an organisation having "politics" because of course it does, it's composed of people, it exists to further somebody's goals or else it wouldn't exist, it's not like organisations can spontaneously wish themselves into existence.

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7. surgic+je1[view] [source] 2023-05-26 09:51:18
>>tialar+D71
I think this is an uncharitable interpretation.

My understanding to people opposing politics in certain things, is typically about opposing unrelated political messaging in said thing.

For a free open source web browser, obviously there is will be politics somewhere. FOSS is political in nature. Web standards involve politics, with multiple parties wanting to influence them for their own reasons. Hell, challenging a multi-billion corporation monopoly is inherently political.

Having political messaging about "celebrating voices making the world a better place" is odd and misplaced political messaging, orthogonal to the politics of a free open source web browser, and will alienate part of the people that are not interested in something this unrelated, irrespective to their agreement to said messaging.

I am personally in favor of universal health care. I wouldn't like to see messaging about it in a web browser, just to give a silly example.

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