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1. nkurz+91[view] [source] 2023-05-13 16:22:05
>>muchte+(OP)
Vouched for and upvoted because I think it's important for readers here to see how much effort goes into creating posts that game the system. I think it's better for these strategies to be known than hidden. It will be interesting to see how tactics like this one evolve as ChatGPT use becomes more widespread.

There's a definite tension between the rule of not accusing other users of being shills and the reality that there are quite a few shills out there. I think it a still good rule, but not because it's never right. Rather, the rule is good because the false accusations do more harm than letting some shilling slip by.

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2. bombca+F5[view] [source] 2023-05-13 16:49:02
>>nkurz+91
There’s a silent part of that rule: if you suspect a shill, gather the evidence and present it to dang via email.
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3. dang+mF[view] [source] 2023-05-13 20:26:27
>>bombca+F5
Yes please.

Edit: actually not so silent - it's the latter part of this guideline from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html: "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data."

It's part of the contract we have with HN users - we ask them not to post this stuff in the threads, but in return we always look into cases that they report to us directly.

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4. market+RW[view] [source] 2023-05-13 22:36:04
>>dang+mF
How long do shill posts last before they've been taken care of?
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5. burnis+M01[view] [source] 2023-05-13 23:08:13
>>market+RW
Just out of curiosity, what sort of answer are you expecting? Your post reads as vaguely accusatory to me - like you're implying that messes are being left intentionally
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