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1. samwil+H5[view] [source] 2023-05-10 12:56:05
>>Jeanne+(OP)
Using robots.txt as a model for anything doesn't work. All a robots.txt is is a polite request to please follow the rules in it, there is no "legal" agreement to follow those rules, only a moral imperative.

Robots.txt has failed as a system, if it hadn't we wouldn't have captchas or Cloudflare.

In the age of AI we need to better understand where copyright applies to it, and potentially need reform of copyright to align legislation with what the public wants. We need test cases.

The thing I somewhat struggle with is that after 20-30 years of calls for shorter copyright terms, lesser restrictions on content you access publicly, and what you can do with it, we are now in the situation where the arguments are quickly leaning the other way. "We" now want stricter copyright law when it comes to AI, but at the same time shorter copyright duration...

In many ways an ai.txt would be worse than doing nothing as it's a meaningless veneer that would be ignored, but pointed to as the answer.

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2. bombol+V8[view] [source] 2023-05-10 13:11:33
>>samwil+H5
> "We" now want stricter copyright law when it comes to AI, but at the same time shorter copyright duration...

AI is being used to do copyright laundering, at the same time "we", the people who can't afford to run our own AI, are still subject to absurd rules that AI owners get to ignore, apparently.

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3. rhn_mk+qd[view] [source] 2023-05-10 13:33:35
>>bombol+V8
The barrier to running an AI model is getting lower every day, so the threshold for ignoring copyright is getting lower with it.
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4. gavinh+0h[view] [source] 2023-05-10 13:50:13
>>rhn_mk+qd
You are mistaken if you think companies will allow common people to ignore copyright on their IP.

The only IP that will be allowed to be stolen is that of other common people.

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5. rhn_mk+4t[view] [source] 2023-05-10 14:42:01
>>gavinh+0h
I agree with you when you talk about places where companies can bully people just by threatening to sue them, and where the defender must have lots of money even if they are clearly in the right.

But AI does not change anything there. The problem of being sued into oblivion despite being right exists there even without it.

In places where defending does not cost money, this works out in favor of the individuals.

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6. gavinh+PN[view] [source] 2023-05-10 16:06:51
>>rhn_mk+4t
"AI" changes things by making it even harder for individuals to defend against.

Right now, we have FOSS organizations that will help you in lawsuits against companies that don't follow licenses. With "AI" in the picture, companies can launder your code with "plausible" deniability. [1]

[1]: https://matthewbutterick.com/chron/will-ai-obliterate-the-ru...

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