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1. perihe+ca[view] [source] 2023-03-18 09:48:20
>>kaeruc+(OP)
Goodhart's law: if you rely on a social signal to tell you what's good, you'll break that signal.

Very soon, the domain of bullshit will extend to actual text. We'll be able to buy HN comments by the thousand -- expertly wordsmithed, lucid AI comments -- and you can get them to say "this GitHub repo is the best", or "this startup is the real deal". Won't that be fun?

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2. klabb3+ne[view] [source] 2023-03-18 10:45:09
>>perihe+ca
Content based auto moderation has been shitty since it’s inception. I don’t like that GPT will cause the biggest flood of shit mankind has ever seen, but I am happy that it will kill these flawed ideas about policing.

The obvious problem is we don’t have any great alternatives. We have captcha, and we can look at behavior and source data (IP), and of course everyone’s favorite fingerprinting. To make matters worse: abuse, spam and fraud prevention lives in the same security-by-obscurity paradigm that cyber security lived in for decades before “we” collectively gave up on it, and decided that openness is better. People would laugh at you to suggest abuse tech should be open (“you’d just help the spammers”).

I tried to find whether academia has taken a stab at these problems but came up pretty much empty handed. Hopefully I’m just bad at searching. I truly don’t get why people aren’t looking at these issues seriously and systematically.

In the medium term, I’m worried that we’ll not address the systemic threats, and continue to throw ID checks, heuristics and ML at the wall, enjoying the short lived successes when some classifier works for a month before it’s defeated. The reason this is concerning is that we will be neck deep in crap (think SEO blogspam and recipe sites but for everything) which will be disorienting for long enough to erode a lot of trust that we could really use right now.

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3. lifeis+Ui[view] [source] 2023-03-18 11:35:40
>>klabb3+ne
I am unclear why a reasonable digital ID (probably government ID card style) plus rate limits is not going to be effective.

I can see lots of reaosns people might oppose the idea but I am not sure why it's not a widely discussed option?

(asking honestly and openly - please don't shout!)

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4. ipaddr+ns[view] [source] 2023-03-18 13:06:55
>>lifeis+Ui
If spam was your only problem now we have two spam and identity theft. Selling/obtaining identity information becomes very profitable and those working in the postal office must guard access like a bank vault.
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5. wpietr+1T[view] [source] 2023-03-18 16:29:01
>>ipaddr+ns
The paradigm of fixed identity information as proof is pretty obviously doomed. Just like how the 1970s concept of username/password as proof of identity is on its way out. Or credit card numbers alone being used to validate transactions.

All of those notions are pre-internet ways of proving identity. In a world where we're all rarely more than an arm's length from a globally connected computer, they're on the way out.

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6. lifeis+tT2[view] [source] 2023-03-19 12:02:42
>>wpietr+1T
I am guessing that "fixed identity information" is not a key pair ?
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