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[return to "OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit"]
1. mellos+pe[view] [source] 2023-03-01 10:46:59
>>isaacf+(OP)
This seems an important article, if for no other reason than it brings the betrayal of its foundational claim still brazenly present in OpenAI's name from the obscurity of HN comments going back years into the public light and the mainstream.

They've achieved marvellous things, OpenAI, but the pivot and long-standing refusal to deal with it honestly leaves an unpleasant taste, and doesn't bode well for the future, especially considering the enormous ethical implications of advantage in the field they are leading.

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2. ripper+yr[view] [source] 2023-03-01 12:38:21
>>mellos+pe
To quote Spaceballs, they're not doing it for money, they're doing it for a shitload of money.
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3. 93po+7N[view] [source] 2023-03-01 14:52:52
>>ripper+yr
OpenAI, if successful, will likely become the most valuable company in the history of the planet, both past and future.
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4. teeker+WX[view] [source] 2023-03-01 15:55:27
>>93po+7N
Really? I feel like they'll go the way of Docker, but faster: Right now super hot, nice tools/API, great PR. But it's build on open and known foundations, soon GPTs will be commodity and then something easier/better FOSS will arise. It may take some time (2-3 years?) but this scenario seems most likely to me.

Edit: Ah didn't get the "reference", perhaps indeed it will be the last of the tech companies ever indeed, at least one started by humans ;).

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5. startu+ib1[view] [source] 2023-03-01 16:48:00
>>teeker+WX
Possible. Coding as we know it might get obsolete. And it is a trillion dollar industry.
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6. fsckbo+hV1[view] [source] 2023-03-01 19:51:53
>>startu+ib1
> Coding as we know it might get obsolete. And it is a trillion dollar industry.

freeing up that many knowledge workers to do other things will grow the economy, not shrink it, a new industrial revolution

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7. rnk+vZ1[view] [source] 2023-03-01 20:12:30
>>fsckbo+hV1
That's an excellent point that I don't think is made enough. The great pay and relative freedom software engineering provides the technically-minded people of the world is great for us, yet starves many other important fields from more technical innovation because of not enough workers in those fields.
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8. robert+s82[view] [source] 2023-03-01 20:54:18
>>rnk+vZ1
Can you explain? I think I'm reading it wrong, but it seems as though you're saying the presence of something is what causes starvation of that thing.
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9. fsckbo+Jk2[view] [source] 2023-03-01 22:00:58
>>robert+s82
no, he's saying other areas that could use smart people are being starved of a certain type of smart, analytical people, for example the types or quantities of people who might be attracted to the medical field.

Lester Thurow, a pretty left liberal economist, pointed out that women's "liberation" and entrance into the general workforce had starved teaching/education of the pool of talented women that had previously kept the quality of education very high. (His mother had been a teacher.)

I (who had studied econ so I tend to think about it) noticed at the dawn of the dot-com boom how much of industry is completely discretionary even though it seems serious and important. Whatever we were all doing before, it got dropped so we could all rush into the internet. The software industry, which was not small, suddenly changed its focus, all previous projects dropped, because those projects were suddenly starved of capital, workers, and attention.

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