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>>GavCo+(OP)
Here's a good list of changes. Most are about removing any references to ugly or fat. But also other strange things like changing the author's Matilda likes to read to include Jane Austin and John Steinbeck, not calling people crazy, swapping screeching to annoying, removing brothers and sisters to favor "siblings" and using "folks" instead of "ladies and gentlemen"

https://twitter.com/incunabula/status/1626860237104857089

>>bko+h5
Joseph Conrad and Rudyard Kipling wrote favorably about colonialism; they were replaced with more agreeable authors.

Use of gendered language is marginalizing to nonbinary people.

It's easy to figure out why these changes are being made in particular, once you take a position of empathy.

>>bitwiz+IM
I can be (and in fact am) empathetic. At the same time, I still take the position that non-binary people and other cultural minorities can simultaneously enjoy non-edited older fiction and understand that it may not have been written with them in mind (and may even be mocking or a little mean).

Write new books. Make them as inclusive or exclusive as you want. I just think it's very telling that you hear so much about "erasure" and yet changing an author's words and intent like this is celebrated.

>>mpalme+WN
Yeah, that comment is just saying you can understand the changes empathetically. It's not saying they're good.

>>tptace+CO
I can't square that with their last sentence.

Moreover, when I feel empathy with someone who feels different and unrecognized by society, something still keeps me from advocating for the censorship and misrepresentation of a writer's ideas and internal logic.

I think what's stopping me is the knowledge that if I'm fortunate enough to write something that lasts beyond me, I sure as heck don't want anyone updating it for the sensibilities of 2053. Putting myself in someone's shoes, I think there's a word for that

>>mpalme+891
Again: there's no advocacy (at least nothing evident to me) in that comment. It's a descriptive comment, not a normative one.

>>tptace+Z91
> It's easy to figure out why these changes are being made in particular, once you take a position of empathy.

Come on guy, it's not that hard to see. People have been pointing it out to you for hours now.

>>SaltyG+Ec1
Please don't cross into personal attack.

>>dang+ss1
I didn't. In fact, tptacek is right above you making a thinly veiled personal attack at me and others here.

What is your relationship to tptacek dang? Every time I see him winding people up, you're there behind him, threatening anyone who stands up.

>>SaltyG+2N1
"Come on guy" and "people have been pointing it out to you for hours now" are rude and personal. Please make your substantive points without swipes. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

I didn't see personal attacks from tptacek. Some of his comments in this thread were edgier than I would like but I didn't see any that broke the site guidelines badly enough to warrant a scolding the way your comment did. Based on what I saw, this isn't a borderline call and (in case you're worried about this) it has nothing to do with disagreeing with you—just look at my posts on the actual topic.

> Every time I see him winding people up, you're there behind him, threatening anyone who stands up

The active ingredient there is "I see". What people see, and fail to see, is basically determined by their passions on a subject. If all these years of moderation have taught me one thing, it's that.