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1. dual_d+ha[view] [source] 2023-02-09 12:18:31
>>grader+(OP)
The "I" in AI is just complete bullshit and I can't understand why so many people are in a awe of a bit of software that chains words to another based on some statistical model.

The sad truth is that ChatGPT is about as good an AI as ELIZA was in 1966, it's just better (granted: much better) at hiding its total lack of actual human understanding. It's nothing more than an expensive parlor trick, IMHO.

Github CoPilot? Great, now I have to perform the most mentally taxing part of developing software, namely understanding other people's code (or my own from 6 months ago...) while writing new code. I'm beyond thrilled ...

So, no, I don't have an AI fatigue, because we absolutely have no AI anywhere. But I have a massive bullshit and hype fatigue that is getting worse all the time.

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2. rcme+5e[view] [source] 2023-02-09 12:40:55
>>dual_d+ha
As much as I’m sick of AI products, I’m even more sick of the “ChatGPT is bullshit” argument.
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3. brooks+vi[view] [source] 2023-02-09 13:08:00
>>rcme+5e
The biggest thing I’ve learned from chatGPT is that real people struggle with the difference between intelligence, understanding, and consciousness / sentience.
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4. maweav+Bq[view] [source] 2023-02-09 13:53:58
>>brooks+vi
Which should be no surprise, as people have been grappling with these ideas for centuries, and we still don't have any definitive idea of what consciousness/sentience truly is. What I find interesting is that at one point the Turing test seemed to be the gold standard for intelligence, but chatGPT could pass that with flying colors. So how exactly will we know if/when true intelligence does emerge?
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5. brooks+ht[view] [source] 2023-02-09 14:05:34
>>maweav+Bq
Well, my point wasn’t that there is a good definition of consciousness.

My point was that “consciousness” and “intelligence” are very different things. One does not imply the other.

Consciousness is about self reflection. Intelligence is about insight and/or problem solving. The two are often correlated, especially in animals, especially in humans, but they’re not the same thing at all.

“Is chatgpt consciousness” is a totally different question than “is chatgpt intelligent”.

We will know chatgpt is intelligent when it passes our tests of intelligence, which are imperfect but at least directionally correct.

I have no idea if/when we we know whether chatgpt is conscious, because we don’t really have good definitions of consciousness, let along tests, as you note.

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