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1. Bhilai+8m[view] [source] 2023-02-08 22:25:52
>>i13e+(OP)
Sorry to break it to you folks but if you hated your data being with Google, you are in for a surprise on how atrociously bad Microsoft is at privacy and security. Multiple close friends who have worked at Microsoft tell me that search history data - who is searching what, is basically sitting in systems with ACLs so bad that 20-30K employees have access through transitive membership of groups. To access a customer's data you just need to know token which is logged everywhere and is apparently very easy to generate. I have heard horror stories from them about privacy incidents which never went public.

From what I know about Google, they are serious about least privilege type of stuff internally and employees dont get arbitrary unbound access to systems or data.

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2. victor+X31[view] [source] 2023-02-09 02:39:52
>>Bhilai+8m
Both are evil but I agree that Google is less evil than Microsoft.

Just like the OP I have first hand info on how atrocious Microsoft’s internal privacy controls are.

The later versions of Windows are just ad space for Microsoft to advertise.

Azure is the worst of the 3 cloud providers. Horrible developer experience and documentation and reliability.

That said, I would still take Satya’s Microsoft over Balmers any day

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3. blargh+t81[view] [source] 2023-02-09 03:24:15
>>victor+X31
Both are driven by a profit motive, but Google takes some forms of privacy more seriously.

Lets not use emotionally driven, ambiguous terms like 'evil' to describe these kinds of things. Google is not, for instance, conspiring to commit genocides, nor is Microsoft planning a coup in an Eastern European nation with the goal of colonizing them to use as indentured technical support.

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4. Muffin+2g1[view] [source] 2023-02-09 04:43:18
>>blargh+t81
> Both are driven by a profit motive

What do you want a corporation/company/business (of any size) to be driven by?

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5. kilgna+wp1[view] [source] 2023-02-09 06:30:54
>>Muffin+2g1
I'd prefer if it was driven by reputation, honor and status achieved by helping humanity.

The primary driver for humans is status. Status in the military is achieved through leadership and honor. Status in academia is achieved through capability. These sectors provably show that people can be driven by things other than money.

The sad thing here is that there are tradeoffs. Nothing is as efficient or as effective of a motivator as money. But money is the driving force that is most detached from ethics.

The media likes to make a big deal out of privacy but mostly people only give a shit up to a point... so it doesn't effect googles bottom line and therefore google also doesn't give a shit.

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6. Walter+xt1[view] [source] 2023-02-09 07:11:49
>>kilgna+wp1
> But money is the driving force that is most detached from ethics.

Power is. Look at all the powerful dictators in the past, and what they did. Do you think Stalin was motivated by money? Napoleon? Mussolini?

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