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1. Bhilai+8m[view] [source] 2023-02-08 22:25:52
>>i13e+(OP)
Sorry to break it to you folks but if you hated your data being with Google, you are in for a surprise on how atrociously bad Microsoft is at privacy and security. Multiple close friends who have worked at Microsoft tell me that search history data - who is searching what, is basically sitting in systems with ACLs so bad that 20-30K employees have access through transitive membership of groups. To access a customer's data you just need to know token which is logged everywhere and is apparently very easy to generate. I have heard horror stories from them about privacy incidents which never went public.

From what I know about Google, they are serious about least privilege type of stuff internally and employees dont get arbitrary unbound access to systems or data.

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2. victor+X31[view] [source] 2023-02-09 02:39:52
>>Bhilai+8m
Both are evil but I agree that Google is less evil than Microsoft.

Just like the OP I have first hand info on how atrocious Microsoft’s internal privacy controls are.

The later versions of Windows are just ad space for Microsoft to advertise.

Azure is the worst of the 3 cloud providers. Horrible developer experience and documentation and reliability.

That said, I would still take Satya’s Microsoft over Balmers any day

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3. blargh+t81[view] [source] 2023-02-09 03:24:15
>>victor+X31
Both are driven by a profit motive, but Google takes some forms of privacy more seriously.

Lets not use emotionally driven, ambiguous terms like 'evil' to describe these kinds of things. Google is not, for instance, conspiring to commit genocides, nor is Microsoft planning a coup in an Eastern European nation with the goal of colonizing them to use as indentured technical support.

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4. Muffin+2g1[view] [source] 2023-02-09 04:43:18
>>blargh+t81
> Both are driven by a profit motive

What do you want a corporation/company/business (of any size) to be driven by?

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5. onetho+th1[view] [source] 2023-02-09 04:55:45
>>Muffin+2g1
- Some environmental metrics (could be solved by pricing environmental harm)

- Ethical Metrics (could be solved by allowing corporations, directors, boards to face similar punishments to humans committing crime).

– Something that measured employee treatment.

Profit is such a shitty motive... it's effective, but still shitty.

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