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>>hungle+(OP)
All: Whether he is right or not or one likes him or not, Hersh reporting on this counts as significant new information (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...), so I've turned off the flags on this submission.

If you're going to comment in this thread, please make sure you're up on the site guidlelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) and note this one: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive." We don't want political or nationalistic flamewar here, and any substantive point can be made without it.

>>dang+Jl1
Why even question Hersh on this when Biden publicly admitted they would put an end to it? https://youtu.be/OS4O8rGRLf8

>>swader+MB1
Because "put an end to it" can easily (and more plausibly) encompass approaches like "sanction Nord Stream AG into the ground".

>>ceejay+AF1
"There will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

>>swader+XH1
There is no longer an Enron, either. No one blew up their headquarters to do it.

>>ceejay+PJ1
The original enron pipelines are still moving product. They still 'be'. Biden wasn't talking about Gazprom. His words are very clear and direct. They are congruent with his body language and tone. He looked down at his notes before speaking.

>>swader+JL1
Don't be disingenous. "We will put an end to x" does not mean "we will blow x up", and is common political rhetoric.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=5567609899962902 "We will put an end to Abbott's attacks on educators, raise teacher pay, improve their retirement benefits, and fully fund our classrooms."

https://larson.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/larson-... "we will put an end to the decades of price gouging"

Again, "we'll bankrupt them with sanctions" easily falls under "we will put an end to them".

>>ceejay+sM1
Nobody uses that rhetorical construct in regard to physical entities. Your anologies are disingenuous.

>>swader+3R1
Governor Abbott is not a physical entity? I suspect this is news to him.

>>ceejay+IU1
You quoted "governor Abbott's attacks". Are you seriously trying to suggest a group threatened the governor himself? You're working too hard on this angle.