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>>samwil+(OP)
I’m truly scared of Chrome.

It pushes proprietary features, from what I know it starts enforcing some analytics/ads without possibility to block it out and there are other thing too, but since I’m not really an user I don’t track them deeply.

Based on my personal experiences with IE, ActiveX, Adobe Flash and not being able to fill my taxes without Microsoft license (that was around 800$ back then for me not adjusted for inflation) I am afraid the same will happen with Chrome once it gets enough ground.

“Hey, sorry but we can’t sell you toothbrush because you’re using Safari/Firefox/Vivaldi/whatever. Please switch to Chrome and continue with your tracked and dissected purchase route.”

Is there any other anti-Chrome bastion than iOS’ Safari?

Old E2E runner installed Google Chrome on my machine (didn’t even ask but that’s user space on dev machine so whatever) which grew into my MacOS machine. It cannot run in background but there is another daemon that constantly updates it. Multiple times a day I get notification that new service has been installed to run in background.

I’m not sure if that’s something I want to fight for.

>>xlii+5h
If Apple was forced to compete on iOS for the dominant position that Safari holds, it would receive greater investment, add support for vital missing PWA features and potentially as a result grow its desktop market. I believe competition in the long run would break Blinks dominant position, and be better for both consumers and developers.

>>samwil+ei
If Apple was forced to compete

It is not a fair market since the maker of one of the browsers also owns a significant portion of the websites that people use daily. Now Google has to play nice with Safari to some extend, since the don't want to miss out on the lucrative iPhone market. Once Google can offer Chrome on iOS, they will destroy Safari with the same underhanded practices as they did to Firefox (a pattern of subtly breaking Firefox with Google products).

>>microt+Hk
> Once Google can offer Chrome on iOS, they will destroy Safari with the same underhanded practices

I don't believe that would happen, firstly Apple would fight back, and secondly the competition authorities would take action against Google.

Google is under scrutiny for its behaviour too.

You can't fight or justify anti competitive behaviour with anti competitive behaviour back.

>>samwil+fl
Google already does this. G-suite is a Trojan horse for their browser, which is a Trojan horse for their advertising engine. They'll disable suite features, or make it mysteriously not run in your "outdated" browser. You'll have to move to something Google approved just to be able to collaborate with your team, or your friends.

> You can't fight or justify anti competitive behaviour with anti competitive behaviour back.

The way it seems to me, for this case, is that those two "anti-"s cancel out and leave you with direct competition?

>>the_ot+8Y
>They'll disable suite features, or make it mysteriously not run in your "outdated" browser.

Can you give an example of a G-suite (or any google product) feature that does not work in Firefox?

>>sebzim+f01
TBH most everything works fine for me (unless I just don't know what I'm missing), but there is a very clear and frustrating gap with Meet backgrounds (blur etc.), which are artificially disabled on Firefox for dubious reasons.