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1. dr_dsh+12[view] [source] 2023-01-14 07:17:25
>>zacwes+(OP)
“Sta­ble Dif­fu­sion con­tains unau­tho­rized copies of mil­lions—and pos­si­bly bil­lions—of copy­righted images.”

That’s going to be hard to argue. Where are the copies?

“Hav­ing copied the five bil­lion images—with­out the con­sent of the orig­i­nal artists—Sta­ble Dif­fu­sion relies on a math­e­mat­i­cal process called dif­fu­sion to store com­pressed copies of these train­ing images, which in turn are recom­bined to derive other images. It is, in short, a 21st-cen­tury col­lage tool.“

“Diffu­sion is a way for an AI pro­gram to fig­ure out how to recon­struct a copy of the train­ing data through denois­ing. Because this is so, in copy­right terms it’s no dif­fer­ent from an MP3 or JPEG—a way of stor­ing a com­pressed copy of cer­tain dig­i­tal data.”

The examples of training diffusion (eg, reconstructing a picture out of noise) will be core to their argument in court. Certainly during training the goal is to reconstruct original images out of noise. But, do they exist in SD as copies? Idk

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2. codefl+69[view] [source] 2023-01-14 08:37:43
>>dr_dsh+12
You seem to be under the impression that SD can only generate original art. However, it will literally recreate existing paintings for you if you just prompt it with the title. Identical composition and everything.
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3. Aerroo+Sw1[view] [source] 2023-01-14 20:21:39
>>codefl+69
Photoshop can also recreate existing paintings if you just "prompt it with the correct input", no?
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4. codefl+AL1[view] [source] 2023-01-14 22:20:58
>>Aerroo+Sw1
So you're saying "if I put the made-up straw man argument that I intend to knock down in quotation marks, it's less obvious that it's not actually what the other person wrote"?
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5. Aerroo+MB2[view] [source] 2023-01-15 08:58:25
>>codefl+AL1
I'm pointing out that the model has a piece missing - the input from the user. You can't just flippantly dismiss it, because input from the user is a crucial part of recreating the works the model is supposedly copying. It's an important factor to consider, because any digital painting program will let you recreate any art work with the correct user input.

It's not sufficient to just consider whether it can reproduce an image, but also how much user input was required to do so.

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