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1. bryanr+58[view] [source] 2023-01-14 08:27:30
>>zacwes+(OP)
It seems to me the communal voice of HN varies widely on copyright issues depending on who is getting sued and who is getting potentially hurt by violations.

People who generally make less money than programmers - writers, artists, musicians - should stop their whining and their unfair uses of copyright to control their creative output.

Programmers who are getting shafted by big corporations using their code to build machine learning models need urgent protection and fairness.

It probably doesn't help that almost every copyright argument here gets made with the understanding of copyright prevalent in the American model - that is to say that copyright exists to promote the progress of science and the useful arts - whereas in many countries copyright is understood as existing because the creator of something has a moral right to control and ownership of whatever they made.

Obviously this lawsuit is in the U.S but I suppose even if it loses here other lawsuits in other countries, with a different understanding of copyright, might succeed.

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2. realus+r8[view] [source] 2023-01-14 08:31:00
>>bryanr+58
I'm personally for a massive reduction of copyright time to align it on patents but that's beside the point, even in the current copyright system that argument against machine learning makes no sense.

The proof of that is they even had to lie about how stable diffusion works on this website to make it convincing, that's a clear sign that they are in the wrong.

Even themselves discovered that the truth won't get them very far.

> Obviously this lawsuit is in the U.S but I suppose even if it loses here other lawsuits in other countries, with a different understanding of copyright, might succeed.

The cat is just out of the bag anyways, if machine learning is outlawed in the US, it will flourish somewhere else instead.

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3. bryanr+Fi[view] [source] 2023-01-14 10:25:19
>>realus+r8
I meant it more that if the suit fails in the U.S similar suits might work in other countries.

It is a multi-front battle they face.

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