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[return to "The Twitter Files, Part Six"]
1. leoh+eM[view] [source] 2022-12-17 02:20:40
>>GavCo+(OP)
Learned basically nothing here. So the FBI helped Twitter with content moderation? Who gives a crap.
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2. kodyo+yN[view] [source] 2022-12-17 02:31:08
>>leoh+eM
They were going after political speech while ignoring actual crimes.
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3. wesley+lO[view] [source] 2022-12-17 02:37:40
>>kodyo+yN
Oh please. Link to where Twitter banned someone for being right wing. Hate speech doesn't count.
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4. transc+q21[view] [source] 2022-12-17 04:26:24
>>wesley+lO
Here you go:

https://www.dhillonlaw.com/lawsuits/meghan-murphy-twitter/

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5. Shared+E51[view] [source] 2022-12-17 04:53:19
>>transc+q21
Referring to a trans person by the wrong gender repeatedly is a good example of hate speech.

It reminds of an old joke:

Conservative: "I keep getting banned for my views"

Rando: "Oh, small government?"

C: "No, not that one"

R: "Oh, so fiscal responsibility?"

C: "Not that either"

R: "So which ones?"

C: "Oh, uh... You know."

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6. Khaine+Un1[view] [source] 2022-12-17 08:35:09
>>Shared+E51
No it’s not. Referring to a trans person by the wrong pronouns repeatedly is just rude. It isn’t hate speech

That’s just watering down what hate speech is.

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7. Shared+yC2[view] [source] 2022-12-17 18:37:30
>>Khaine+Un1
Speech designed to

A) Harm the target, who has gone out of their way to avoid that harm already (by transitioning/changing pronouns)

B) Dehumanize the target in the eyes of others (this person doesn't matter, their wishes are to be entirely disrespected)

seems like a reasonable candidate for hate speech to me.

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8. bennie+v23[view] [source] 2022-12-17 21:19:11
>>Shared+yC2
Pointing out that a man who desires to be a woman is still really a man, is an act of speech that neither causes him harm nor dehumanizes him.

It's very silly to claim that this is some type of hate.

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9. Shared+433[view] [source] 2022-12-17 21:22:00
>>bennie+v23
Aww, look at you making a throwaway to respond to my comments, it's cute :3

E: Removed the troll feeding bits.

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10. bennie+b53[view] [source] 2022-12-17 21:37:36
>>Shared+433
See, you know it doesn't really make any sense to call this hate speech, otherwise you wouldn't have deflected into accusations of trolling.
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11. Shared+B53[view] [source] 2022-12-17 21:40:43
>>bennie+b53
Then come back with your real handle and we'll talk. If you're not willing to interact in good faith, it is only safe to assume that you are a troll.
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12. bennie+O63[view] [source] 2022-12-17 21:50:21
>>Shared+B53
You are still deflecting.
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13. Shared+K73[view] [source] 2022-12-17 21:57:27
>>bennie+O63
Ugh, fine.

> neither causes harm

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/transphobia#effect...

> Nor dehumanizes

Intentionally causing harm (see above) and pushing for it to be acceptable for others to cause harm is in fact dehumanizing.

I note you still fail to present any argument other than "I feel like you're wrong"

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14. bennie+S93[view] [source] 2022-12-17 22:11:03
>>Shared+K73
So, let's say that someone (like a user of Twitter, or a writer for the Babylon Bee) points out that Rachel Levine, a public figure, is a man.

How does that actually harm him?

He's in an incredibly privileged position, and indeed has enjoyed male privilege for pretty much all of his life.

Should we avoid saying any truth that might slightly upset a public figure, or anyone really, just in case they feel a bit sad if they happen to hear it?

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