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1. barbar+Ae[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:00:08
>>prawn+(OP)
> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply.

> It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old.

It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it could be

Let’s try to make a comment that creates less outrage than most…

This is why it would be interesting to post public information about politicians collected from the online spyware that tracks all of us. It would rapidly motivate new laws that at least somewhat improve privacy.

This always happens when rule makers are personally affected by a problem: the problem starts getting attention

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2. emoden+Ly[view] [source] 2022-12-16 05:02:38
>>barbar+Ae
> It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it could be

I don't think it seems like a good rule. Not only is the information public but I think it is not hard to dream up reasons why it would legitimately be in the public interest to report on the comings and goings of someone's private jet.

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3. nearbu+5D[view] [source] 2022-12-16 05:30:54
>>emoden+Ly
Public or not, it is a security concern, especially for a celebrity/politicized figure/widely hated person.

I wouldn't want my live location posted on the internet either, and there's a lot fewer people who want to hurt me than Musk (AFAIK, no one wants to hurt me).

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4. emoden+MD[view] [source] 2022-12-16 05:36:43
>>nearbu+5D
I don't find it credible that someone is committed enough to doing you harm that they're willing to rot in prison for the rest of their lives but not quite committed enough to look up the public data themselves instead of finding it conveniently collated for them.
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5. rosnd+JJ[view] [source] 2022-12-16 06:27:46
>>emoden+MD
ADS-B transmissions are not "public data" you can look up, what you're referring to as "public data" are datasets of dubious legality from the likes of flightradar24 who operate ADS-B logging devices around the world.

For example, in Europe what they're doing is strictly in violation of the GDPR.

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6. guitar+4L[view] [source] 2022-12-16 06:36:28
>>rosnd+JJ
Love the GDPR, but how is ADS-B data personal data?
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7. jdong+fM[view] [source] 2022-12-16 06:43:46
>>guitar+4L
How could it not be? Your plane's location data is just as personal as your car's, or your cellphone's. There's no special aircraft exemption in the GDPR.
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8. kennyw+SO[view] [source] 2022-12-16 07:01:44
>>jdong+fM
A plane is not a person, a phone, a car, or a home. Elon Musk is often the passenger on his jet, but I am quite sure he is often not on board while it moves around.
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9. jdong+7P[view] [source] 2022-12-16 07:03:15
>>kennyw+SO
Why would a plane be treated differently than a car in a GDPR context?
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10. zimpen+hf2[view] [source] 2022-12-16 17:03:40
>>jdong+7P
> Why would a plane be treated differently than a car in a GDPR context?

A car is generally registered to an individual. A plane isn't.

You could also -maybe- argue that because there's multiple people on the plane (assuming Ol' Muskie isn't flying it himself) and that those people are potentially different every time, without a passenger and crew manifest, it's not identifying individuals (but I suspect you'd not get far with this.)

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11. jdong+Uq2[view] [source] 2022-12-16 17:54:00
>>zimpen+hf2
Planes are very often registered to individuals, and that doesn't even matter! The plane being company owned doesn't magically change anything, what matters is who's being transported and whether or not they will be easily linked to the aircraft.

From a GDPR perspective it also makes no difference whether it's 5% or 90% of planes that are owned by individuals as opposed to by companies.

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