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1. c54+C6[view] [source] 2022-12-16 02:17:36
>>prawn+(OP)
The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic.

It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

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2. progra+dd[view] [source] 2022-12-16 02:54:39
>>c54+C6
Doxxing adds nothing to the conversation. It’s not an opinion, an argument, or an artful expression — forms that free speech laws are designed to protect. Rather, doxxing is merely harassment and adds nothing substantive. Same argument can be made for racial slurs and the like. Anyone pretending otherwise is being disingenuous.
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3. xcrunn+fg[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:09:05
>>progra+dd
Trump, and most right wingers were all banned from TOS violations and harassment and doxxing. Look up LibsofTikTok and what they did too. Suddenly you change your tube on “free speech absolutely” back to something even more obscured. Good job.
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4. Natura+Pk[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:31:47
>>xcrunn+fg
>Trump, and most right wingers were all banned from TOS violations and harassment and doxxing.

This is directly contrary to the reporting in Twitter Files by Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, and Michael Shellenberger whose journalistic integrity and credentials exceed yours and mine combined by orders of magnitude:

"On Jan 7, senior Twitter execs:

- create justifications to ban Trump

- seek a change of policy for Trump alone, distinct from other political leaders

- express no concern for the free speech or democracy implications of a ban"

https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/16017204550055116...

And the only doxxing related to LibsOfTikTok was Taylor Lorenz doxxing LibsOfTikTok, to the point that Lorenz showed up at LibsOfTikTok's house in person herself. She didn't just doxx her, she went to her house in person. There are pictures.

edit: Rate limited for telling a truth that HN dislikes again...

Here's my reply to the below:

>If they then publish your home address? Sure.

She did publish her home address, after showing up there. Some tweets containing it are apparently still up, as she complained about it to Musk in a thread about the journalists being suspended (for 7 days it turns out).

She claimed the identity of the account was of public interest on CNN here: https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/15182845369660456...

But then showed up at relatives' houses of LibsOfTikTok too: https://thepostmillennial.com/libs-of-tik-tok-exposes-taylor...

Do you mean to tell me that the relatives of that account were of public interest after exposing the account as an American woman?

It was a deliberate doxxing, by Taylor Lorenz aimed at LibsOfTikTok on purpose.

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5. xcrunn+5p[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:58:34
>>Natura+Pk
Trump has numerous examples of TOS violations and was even suspended at first for them. He was treated very differently from everyone else. THATS WHAT THEY SEEKED TO CHANGE.

You conveniently misinterpreted or even left our crucial pieces of the so called “twitter files” including that the policies of shadow banning and such were already mentioned and known.

Some of the employees were literally asking for reasons to KEEP certain right wing accounts on twitter.

They listened to violations of revenge porn AND TOS violations of Hunter Biden’s dick. The right wing really seems obsessed with seeing it because the links that were all mentioned in the docs were all of his dick LOL

LibsofTikTok causing harassment to children’s hospitals and they still weren’t even banned. No they weren’t promoted in the algorithm but there’s no right to be amplified.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/02/lgbtq-t...

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6. chrisb+Sk1[view] [source] 2022-12-16 11:46:29
>>xcrunn+5p
> the policies of shadow banning and such were already mentioned and known.

They were "known" in the same sense that everybody already "knew" that the US government spies on us before Snowden leaked the details.

Twitter claimed that they didn't shadowban - in fact there's a tweet out there somewhere (I think I saw it shared in one of the Twitter Files threads itself) in which Jack Dorsey himself explicitly denies that Twitter shadowbans. To claim that the Files didn't reveal any new information is utterly disingenuous.

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