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1. infraw+mX[view] [source] 2022-12-16 08:06:53
>>prawn+(OP)
Musk joined a Twitter Spaces discussion about the bans and was mocked after he left [1]. Notably, suspended accounts were on stage with Elon during the discussion [2].

The space was ended abruptly 30 minutes later and it appears it was killed on Twitter’s side given that the usual metadata does not match what a closed Space has. This Space was being recorded and the replay is not available [3].

Musk now claims that they are fixing a “legacy bug” [4] and this is why Spaces has been disabled. In my opinion, Musk is behaving like a petulant child and his group of cheerleaders look more ridiculous and without backbone each day.

[1] https://twitter.com/forevereversley/status/16036127708929187...

[2] https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/16036045712884695...

[3] https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1603622824177848326

[4] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603649264290123778

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2. random+W21[view] [source] 2022-12-16 09:00:35
>>infraw+mX
I think calling anyone defending Musk at any level a “cheerleader” isn’t a helpful framing of the debate.

It’s important not to make any issue an “I align with X so you’re against me” conflict.

Musk has achieved great, incredible things. That’s just indisputable fact.

Musk is also behaving erratically, inconsistently, and seemingly also unethically over Twitter. And has done so in the past, eg in the dispute with the diver or against short sellers.

One aspect of Elon’s actions does not cancel the other out. We should celebrate the good and debate the bad.

I feel like this melodrama is driven by Musk’s detractors ready to pounce and dismiss, say, the development of reusable rockets, by Musk being petulant. That is not an argument that makes any sense.

And the same goes for any fans who think Musk’s incredible achievements give him permission to ban and censor those who annoy him.

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3. benj11+P91[view] [source] 2022-12-16 10:13:48
>>random+W21
>I think calling anyone defending Musk at any level a “cheerleader” isn’t a helpful framing of the debate.

I generally agree with you POV (people are complicated). I don't think the parent was calling people people cheerleaders merely for defending him on any level.

But to add to your comment. I never understand why people are surprised that a person driven, opinionated and cutthroat enough to be a successful business person is a bit of an arsehole in person. It kind of goes with the territory.

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4. random+Za1[view] [source] 2022-12-16 10:26:58
>>benj11+P91
> I don't think the parent was calling people people cheerleaders merely for defending him on any level.

Ah, I definitely read it that way. The use of “cheerleaders” leaves little room for ambiguity, I think.

I was watching a brilliant talk from someone quite famous in the nerd world and he was talking about Steve Jobs and the two things he brought to business… paraphrasing, one about being a visionary, and the other about… let’s say “strong management”. I do wonder if you’re right, I hope it’s possible to be nice and great though. Maybe it’s just harder.

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