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1. barbar+Ae[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:00:08
>>prawn+(OP)
> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply.

> It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old.

It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it could be

Let’s try to make a comment that creates less outrage than most…

This is why it would be interesting to post public information about politicians collected from the online spyware that tracks all of us. It would rapidly motivate new laws that at least somewhat improve privacy.

This always happens when rule makers are personally affected by a problem: the problem starts getting attention

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2. Goofba+uh[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:15:48
>>barbar+Ae
Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Musk didn't like it so the journalists are now banned.

The dude is truly off his rocker now. The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He's self-destructing before our eyes...no longer the richest man in the world. Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year old.

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3. Natura+Gl[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:37:09
>>Goofba+uh
>Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it.

Come on now. They were linking directly to the tracker that Sweeney was banned for, not just reporting on the story about it.

It was a childish petulant doxxing on purpose and they got treated the same as Sweeney.

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4. Malloc+wm[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:42:51
>>Natura+Gl
His jet's location isn't doxxing and the public has a legitimate interest in it.
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5. wfme+9p[view] [source] 2022-12-16 03:58:47
>>Malloc+wm
What exactly is this "legitimate" interest?
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6. kasey_+Kp[view] [source] 2022-12-16 04:03:31
>>wfme+9p
The general premise about why flight data is public is because the planes are using a public good.

The airspace of a place is a commons, what happens in the commons is everyone’s to know.

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7. rosnd+kI[view] [source] 2022-12-16 06:17:04
>>kasey_+Kp
Why would the public need to know which plane is where, as opposed to just a plane being somewhere?
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8. detaro+rJ[view] [source] 2022-12-16 06:25:40
>>rosnd+kI
My understanding is that in the US this kind of thing doesn't work on "need to" basis. It's something planes broadcast (for air traffic control reasons) unencrypted, anyone can receive it, there is nothing banning people "hearing" unencrypted radio from telling others what they hear. (Similarly to how police scanners or listening to ATC radio is legal)
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9. rosnd+uK[view] [source] 2022-12-16 06:33:02
>>detaro+rJ
In Europe it's not always legal to listen to unencrypted radio transmissions if you're not the intended recipient, but this is heavily country dependent and not rabbit hole worth diving into here.

But what's definitely not legal anywhere in the EU is to record unencrypted radio transmissions, use it to construct a database full of PII, and distribute it like Flightradar and friends do.

E: can't reply below due to ratelimits

>Hence why I said "in the US"...

Hence why I said "in Europe"...

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