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1. meebob+kc[view] [source] 2022-12-15 13:03:10
>>dredmo+(OP)
I've been finding that the strangest part of discussions around art AI among technical people is the complete lack of identification or empathy: it seems to me that most computer programmers should be just as afraid as artists, in the face of technology like this!!! I am a failed artist (read, I studied painting in school and tried to make a go at being a commercial artist in animation and couldn't make the cut), and so I decided to do something easier and became a computer programmer, working for FAANG and other large companies and making absurd (to me!!) amounts of cash. In my humble estimation, making art is vastly more difficult than the huge majority of computer programming that is done. Art AI is terrifying if you want to make art for a living- and, if AI is able to do these astonishingly difficult things, why shouldn't it, with some finagling, also be able to do the dumb, simple things most programmers do for their jobs?

The lack of empathy is incredibly depressing...

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2. gus_ma+Ue[view] [source] 2022-12-15 13:16:38
>>meebob+kc
I think the correct way to get empathy is to use an equivalent that technical people understand, like Copilot:

* Can a Copilot-like generator be trained with the GPL code of RMS? What is the license of the output?

* Can a Copilot-like generator be trained with the leaked source code of MS Windows? What is the license of the output?

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3. imgabe+Vf[view] [source] 2022-12-15 13:21:12
>>gus_ma+Ue
If a human learns to program by reading GPL code, what is the license of future code they write?
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4. zorked+zg[view] [source] 2022-12-15 13:24:48
>>imgabe+Vf
A language model is not a human. You at least have the possiblity that the human learned something. The language model is a parrot with a large memory.

That said Microsoft didn't allow their kernel developers to look at Linux code for a reason.

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5. ben_w+Th[view] [source] 2022-12-15 13:31:17
>>zorked+zg
What definition of learning are you using that makes humans not parrots and a deep learning system not learning?

I know current AI is very different from an organic brain at many levels, but I don't know if any of those differences really matters.

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6. NateEa+XK[view] [source] 2022-12-15 15:30:17
>>ben_w+Th
And since you don't know if they matter, you should not presume that they don't.
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