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1. agomez+H2[view] [source] 2022-12-15 12:08:48
>>dredmo+(OP)
Probably because they disdain the use of AI being used to copy their IP and distribute it at "machine" scale? Not an artist myself but can imagine I'd be pissed off that a bot is replicating my art with random changes.

HOWEVER, if a person were to ask for permission to use my pictures to feed into an AI to generate a number of images, and that person _selected_ a few and decided to sell them, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Something to do with the permission provided to the artist and an editing/filtering criteria being used by a human makes me feel ok with such use.

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2. alxlaz+53[view] [source] 2022-12-15 12:10:34
>>agomez+H2
What you're describing is basically copyright, which is exactly what artists are demanding: the legal protection to which they are entitled to.

Edit: Silicon Valley exceptionalism seems to preclude some thought leaders in the field to remember the full definition of copyright: it's an artist's exclusive right to copy, distribute, adapt, display, and perform a creative work.

A number of additional provisions, like fair use, are meant to balance artists' rights against public interest. Private commercial interest is not meant to be covered by fair use.

No one is disputing that everyone, including companies in the private sector, is entitled to using artists' images for AI research. But things like e.g. using AI-generated images for promotional purposes are not research, and not covered by fair use. You want to use the images for that, great -- ask for permission, and pay royalties. Don't mooch.

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3. phpist+K3[view] [source] 2022-12-15 12:16:02
>>alxlaz+53
Copyright (in the US) also includes fair use provisions of which education and research is a fair use of copyrighted work for which no permission from the artist is needed
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4. beezle+Bo[view] [source] 2022-12-15 14:05:59
>>phpist+K3
> fair use provisions of which education and research is a fair use

I don't think people are debating fair use for education and research. It's the obvious corporate and for profit use which many see coming that is the issue. Typically, licensing structures were a solution for artists, but "AI" images seem to enable for-profit use by skirting around who created the image by implying the "AI" did, a willful ignorance of the way that the image was generated/outputted.

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