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>>TimWol+(OP)
The worst part about PHP is constantly hearing from its detractors, who are often people who haven’t used the language in many years. Haystack needle order, $, fractal of bad design, it just gets old.

The language isn’t perfect but I love working with it, these 8.1 and 8.2 improvements have really made it sweet.

My biggest gripe at the moment is the (very old) behavior of e.g. preg_match() and sort(). You’ve got a small handful of these common functions that operate on their input by reference/in place which is gross. A new version of these would be welcome.

>>user39+j7
Have you considered that these "detractors" might just be former users of the language themselves, who felt liberated once they tried something else, and want to help other people not feel stuck as well?

>>felipe+to
I did php and moved to other languages. I don't feel liberated.

In fact php with composer and tooling is really good these days. Most people I've met (in person) who hate on php can't say why. They tend to equate php with wordpress.

I've picked up their projects and see many problems but I don't go blame the language they chose.