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>>TimWol+(OP)
The worst part about PHP is constantly hearing from its detractors, who are often people who haven’t used the language in many years. Haystack needle order, $, fractal of bad design, it just gets old.

The language isn’t perfect but I love working with it, these 8.1 and 8.2 improvements have really made it sweet.

My biggest gripe at the moment is the (very old) behavior of e.g. preg_match() and sort(). You’ve got a small handful of these common functions that operate on their input by reference/in place which is gross. A new version of these would be welcome.

>>user39+j7
I feel the same, but for Java.

>>vanill+Cq
Yeah, the `InternalFrameInternalFrameTitlePaneInternalFrameTitlePane MaximizeButtonWindowNotFocusedState` jokes get a bit old.

Non-java devs think of java as Java 6 when in reality it has pretty significantly evolved in the last decade. I dare say that it's one of the most rapidly evolving mainstream languages on the market at this point.

>>cogman+Tr
Most Java devs are on Java 8, because of how much Java 9 broke reflection, classloading, etc.

>>pie_fl+eP
That's something that will likely change pretty rapidly. Springboot 3 is forcing Java 17 which is going to force a lot of conversations once 2 is fully retired. (free support for 2 ends next year)

The Java 8->11 transition was rough but honestly after that we've not really experienced a whole lot of pain. 16 has been a little bit of a pain as well since it closed some more unsafe holes. I think that's the last release, however, that's going to cause major headaches with migrations.