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>>TimWol+(OP)
As someone who has written in past a lot of PHP and Python, I find it interesting that PHP devs can do a lot of breaking changes, and don't get a huge amount of flak for it.

Python 2 -> 3 change really was painful for Python community, but PHP does these almost fundamental breaking changes so often, that maybe people just get used to it? I haven't really followed Python past version 2, but I think they are less likely to ever do such amount of breaking changes.

There must be a lot of unmaintained PHP codebases that will break if PHP is updated by hosting provider etc. Someone must be pulling a lot of hairs because of this.

Edit: Those dogpiling there, I rest my case with josefresco's comment:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33907628

It's painful. Dropping dynamic properties? That will be a lot of fun. WordPress is probably biggest segment for PHP usage.

>>Cianti+R7
I actually found Python as an organisation quite obnoxious during the transition to 3.

Even as someone who supported it. Perhaps there was internal built up resentment.

Whatever it was it showed in their communication.

Very occasionally I have to communicate on a topic I think could see backlash based on internal views. I make an effort to communicate it as neurally as possible.

My org currently prefers a saccharin approach when there is controversy I can't stand that, but I prefer it to over the like it or lump it bristling with rage approach Python took.