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>>feross+(OP)
As I've said for a long time, I don't mind moderation, I just want to be in charge of what I see. Give me the tools that the moderators have, let me be able to filter out bots at some confidence level; let me see "removed" posts, banned accounts; don't mess with my searches unless I've asked for that explicitly.

Power to the people.

>>brigan+Ms
I don't think that really deals with beheading videos, incitement to terrorism, campaigns to harass individuals and groups, child porn, and many cases where online communities document or facilitate crimes elsewhere.

>>PaulHo+Wa1
Child porn is illegal. Are beheading videos illegal? Incitement to terrorism is probably a crime (though I'd argue that it should be looked at under the imminent lawless action test[1] as it's speech). So all of these would be removed and are not part of a moderation discussion.

As to "many cases where online communities document or facilitate crimes elsewhere", why criminalise the speech if the action is already criminalised?

That leaves only "Campaigns to harass individuals and groups". Why wouldn't moderation tools as powerful as the ones employed by Twitter's own moderators deal with that?

[1] https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/970/incitement-to-i...

>>brigan+fo1
'x is illegal' is a cop-out (albeit often unintentional) and I wish people would stop using it. anything can be made illegal, are you just going to roll over if expressing an unpopular idea becomes a crime? Conversely, illegality doesn't deter a lot of people and many are skilled at playing with the envelope of legality, so absent any moderation you'll get lots of technically/arguably legal content that is designed or degrade or disrupt the operation of a target forum.

It's unhealthy to just throw every difficult problem at courts; the legal system is clumsy, unresponsive, and often tends to go to unwanted extremes due to a combination of technical ignorance, social frustration, and useless theatrics.

>>anigbr+DT2
We're talking about a social media service adhering to one of the most liberal set of speech laws and norms in the world, not the imposition on the population of an unjust law. Tell me I can't say the word "gay" on threat of imprisonment and I'll say it more but that's not relevant to this discussion.