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>>feross+(OP)
I think something that really bothers me about this discussion about moderation is how many people approach this debate like a new born baby. They have an idea and then speculate on how it fixes everything. There's never any discussion of what exists in the real world. ACX here is essentially describing some key attributes of reddit. Each sub-reddit has it's own moderation team that decides what's acceptable and then you opt-in. This is pretty close to what ACX is proposing.

So let's look at what happened in reality. Almost immediately sub-reddits pop up that are at the very least attempting to skirt the law, and often directly breaching the law- popular topics on reddit included creative interpretations of the age of consent for example, or indeed the requirement for consent at all. Oh and because anyone can create one these communities, the site turns into whack-a-mole.

The second thing that happened was communities popped up pretty much for the sole purpose of harassing's other communities. But enabling this sort of market place of moderation, you are providing a mechanism for a group of people to organize a way to attack your own platform. So now you have to step back in and we're back to censorship.

I also think that this article completely mischaracterizes what the free speech side of the debate want.

>>Silver+hP
> Each sub-reddit has it's own moderation team that decides what's acceptable and then you opt-in.

It's a great concept, though it's worth pointing out that there's considerable overlap of moderators between subreddits (a.k.a. powermods).

In effect, you end up with a single system applied across hundreds of subreddits which may-or-may-not be appropriate, and if you happen to earn the ire of a powermod you find yourself banned from all the subreddits they moderate.

>>richbe+R01
There's way way more censorship on Reddit than I think more people realize. Mods shadow delete your post so you can still see it but no one else does. Unless you have a habit of logging out and checking you won't notice when a post gets deleted.

Mostly quit Reddit when I realized about 5% of my posts were shadow deleted for holding the wrong opinion.

>>treis+Jj1
> Mods shadow delete your post so you can still see it but no one else does.

Mass taggers have historically been abused to ban or shadow-ban users who've posted in "bad" subreddits.

If you argued with someone in r/the Donald, you'd magically be unable to participate in a large swath of unrelated communities. Trying to appeal the bans would often result in you being permanently muted or receiving a snarky response from the mods saying it's your fault for engaging in said 'bad' communities.